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Thursday, April 8, 2010

IT IS TIME TO GO TO US COURT

By: George Moolechalil, Secretary, Kerala Catholic Reformation Movement
       The developments in the Coppell parish is, indeed disgusting. If the bishop had the spirit of the Apostles he could never have taken the revengeful actions against the vicar and the entire parishners.
Even if he thought that the resisting parishners are wrong in their stand on the ‘cross issue’, he could have still pardoned them as the crucifix is not against Catholic faith and also as it is accepted and erected in many dioceses of Syro-Malabar church. But it seems that he opted to satisfy his egoistic, rather than apostolic, attitude and took the path of revenge. The allegation against the vicar of misappropriation of money, his immediate dismissal and the freezing of all the parish bank accounts only show the bishop’s disregard to the Christian values of love and mercy. It is nothing but misusing the apostolic position which is given only to serve the faithful.
This should not go unquestioned. And it is heartening to know that the parishners are contemplating legal actions in this regard. In USA it would be easier to move against erring Bishops as the churches here cannot function merely under Canon Law but also under the law of the land.
There are two points on which the Coppell parish committee can proceed legally, I think:
 1. Breach of trust on the property deal and misrepresentation
The parish committee will have enough proofs-such as, minutes of the parish committee and that of the general assembly- to show that the church and its properties are bought by contributions collected from among the parishners. Even if the deal is in the name of the Bishop, it only means that the faithful of the parish entrusted him to be the 'binami' of the deal on behalf of them, as being their spiritual head. And, when he starts assuming the power of ownership by himself, then it is a breach of trust between him and the parish community. As it is also refusal of representing the communion of the faithful, ie., the church, it amounts to misrepresentation too. Now the Bishop breached the trust that the faithful bestowed upon him by acting as the sole owner by illegally freezing the bank accounts. And, it is unbelievable that this unilateral, undemocratic action of the Bishop can stand the US constitution and legal system.
  2. Financial Allegation against the Vicar.
The allegation against Fr. Saji, the Vicar, of misappropriation of money is of serious nature. If it is correct Fr. Saji has to face the consequences. Otherwise, it should be taken as an attempt of character assassination. The parish committee should be knowing all the financial dealings of the Vicar, and if they think that the allegation is designed to tarnish the Vicar’s image then it is worth moving a defamation case by the Vicar and the committee.
If Syro-Malabar faithful in America succeed in getting a court verdict in favor of restoring their legitimate rights on their church and its properties, it will be a great success to all Syro-Malabar community in Kerala and whole India.
Contact:
George Moolechalil ( Secretary,’ Kerala ‘Catholic church Reformation Movement’, Vallichira P O, Pala, Kottayam-686592 email:gmool@yahoo.com

38 comments:

Anonymous said...

It is indeed the right time to go to Court, as amicable solution is not and will not be possible because of the acts from the so called Higher Ups. The acts in Chicago and Coppel reveal that. The Bishop is forced to do all these things from behind. But since he declares, he will be held responsible for every split that is happening in the Name of Cross.

Even this misrepresentation happened in Chicago Church and the people's mouth were not heeded and are quietly following. people come to church to pray and have some socialization. They are fed up with the Circus in the church.

Anonymous said...

കൊപ്പേൽ സഹോദരങ്ങളുടെ നീതിക്കു വേണ്ടിയുള്ള സമരത്തിനു മുൻപിൽ പ്രണാമങ്ങളോടെ ഒരു സീറോ മലബാറുകാരൻ

Anonymous said...

All catholics, this is the time to react againist the luxurious life of our Bishops and priests. Remember they took an oath of poverty at the time of their ordination but they are the one leading the most luxuriouslife than all of us with our hard earned money. Please stop spenting any money to the Bishop's appeal and use that money for some charity in our home country. I am not sure why this bishop is punishing a holy priest Rev. Fr. Saji, i think it is because he is standing with the majority people and leading a poor people.

Mr Chacko said...

+Sahan Samaram+


Coppel parishoners planning Hunger and Prayer strike on all syro malabar parish after 16th April 2010 onwards.
Please support us, please pray for us,please orginize prayer and hunger vigils on all syro malabar parish across the world on coming sundays.
This is a Sahana Samaram,please join with us .

Anonymous said...

Dear members, invite all your friends to come for the mass and farewell party of fr. Sajiachen, scheduled to be held this Sunday.

Fr. Sajiachen deserves a good and grand sendoff.

I urge all those who have cameras to bring them and take pics of the so called : bad elements : so that we can post it on YouTube.

Thomas said...

Announcement
Sahana Samaram+

Coppel parishioners announcing Long march to Chicago Bishop houses On 15th There are 4 buses are arranged ,almost 150 -200 representative of each coppel family will join the Strike .
The strike will start immediately after Fr. Saji's Chicgo yathra to report to Bishop.

All the Coppelites starts their long march at (15.30hrs Journey at sharp 2 pm CST from Coppel St. Alphonsa Church). Other details of the Journey will be announced later.

Following are the demands of Coppelites.

1.Chicgo must return back Fr. Saji to Coppel
2.The Syro malabar curia should ,ask pardon against Fr. Saji and Coppelites
3.Bishop should return all the parishioners money
4.Bishop should order to remove up Marthoma Cross from Cathedral and other places of diocese

More details soon.

Thomas K said...

Request ,
Priest ,Nuns -Pleas organize Candle light marches to Syro-Malabar Major Archiepiscopal Curia ,Kakkanad.

Mary J said...

Chris-teen and mothers - Pryer Rally and march in front of Dallas – Garland Syro Malabar church.
During the Long march to Chicago, Dallas Kids and mothers orginzing fasting prayer and march towards Garland chruch . Join with us on 18th Sunday April . Please join!

Anonymous said...

It’s been a while since we got live updates about the issue.

I suspect that the silence is per the advice of the two Indo-American lawyers and the two American lawyers who are tirelessly working on the case.

Anonymous said...

Why we are waiting? Since some lawyers are able to help, we should initiate a petition in the U S court ASAP.

Thomas said...

Join
+sahana Samaram+

Copple Parishioners Please Join the Next Sunday's Vaya muudiketti smamaram. All please come with black Scarp and Cross . All please wear the Cross . We are starting continuous strike against “The Cheat” of Chicago Curia

Anonymous said...

Indications that Jesus did have a homosexual orientation:
bullet "In the Gospel of John, the disciple John frequently refers to himself in the third person as 'the disciple whom Jesus loved'." 4 One might argue that Jesus loved all of his followers in a non-sexual way. Thus to identify Jesus' love for John in a special way might indicate a sexual relationship. The disciple was "the" beloved. He was in a class by himself.

During the Last Supper before Jesus' execution, the author(s) of the Gospel of John describes how the "beloved" disciple laid himself on Jesus' inner tunic -- his undergarment. See John 13:25 and 21:20. Robert Goss, assistant professor of comparative religion at Webster University in St. Louis, LA, noted that Jesus and the beloved disciple: "... eat together, side by side. What's being portrayed here is a pederastic relationship between an older man and a younger man. A Greek reader would understand." 5

On the other hand:
bullet Some commentators have suggested that it was a common practice in Judea at that time for heterosexual man to lay his head on another's undergarment. Such behavior was common between two heterosexuals in an emotionally close but non-erotic relationship during the first century CE. 6

bullet Jenny Stokes, research director for Saltshakers, a conservative Christian group in Australia, said that there are five words for love in Greek (the language in which the Gospels were written:
bullet Agape: spiritual, unconditional love,
bullet Eros: erotic love,
bullet Philia: love between friends,
bullet Storge: familial love.

The Gospel references to "the disciple whom Jesus loved" use the word "agape." 3 Whether the authors originally used "eros" and the word was subsequently changed is open to speculation.

Geo said...

“Lying lips are abomination to the LORD: but they that deal truly are his delight. Proverbs 12:22” The Bishop cannot be forgiven on the Christian assumption of “not knowing what he was doing”

The problems were started due to the Bishops demand to re- write the parish council minutes referring crucifix issue. Subsequent events including the recent allegation of financial misappropriation are to save his face of from the original issue.

Let us recap the recent allegations .Coppell Parish got a Parish committee and this committee decided to give back what Fr.Saji contributed to the church fund plus some money as a gift to him. Thomas was against the gift and put his rejoinder.
Immediately after the meeting the news was conveyed to Chicago by none other than Thomas whose advice the Bishop send faxes to the bank for account freeze.
This action is only intended to tarnish the image of a noble priest and that is why the Coppell faithful united together to oppose the decision.

Now the Bishop insists to get the Parish gift back, which raises certain serious concerns on his intentions. First of all, if the money is returned it can be said that the money is from misappropriation which support the allegation. In the other hand, if it is not returned, they can claim that Fr.Saji does not obeyed the Bishop.This is the play behind this last ordeal advised by none other than chancellor who claimed to have some postal degrees in law! Here we can safely says the expression” nemo censetur ignorare legem” means nobody is taught to ignore the law applies.

Bishop role in church affairs (Financial only) is that of a guardian or Trustee only and not as an owner. As trustee, of course he has bound to preserve the assets of the church. But at the same time it should be for the benefit of the beneficiaries, who are the parishioners. This is the legal intention put forth in the cannon law and by courts. The title to the church or bank account in his name alone gets him the position as “owner” who can freely do what ever he wants.

His actions leads to a great deal of suspicion and doubt about his honesty, reliability and trustworthiness in holding the very dignified holy position as a Catholic Bishop and.
the question is can he honestly represent and lead the Syro Malabar Catholic Church in USA that consists of layman from all parts of Kerala.

If the Parish committee and council do not have any role, other than collecting the money, do we need such committees and parish council? Let the Bishop find his own funds, buy the buildings and run the show himself, may be for a fee. This is to be considered by all the forthcoming parishes, other wise you will also got the same treatment from the diocese.

Until the parish committees got a say in financial matters rather than the “advisory only” as claimed by Bishop, please stop all church contributions, except a token check of $1.00 for every Sunday. Let the Bishop find his own funds, pay the mortgage and utlities.

Anonymous said...

For the comment #6:
Please come to Chicago on a Sunday so that you will get an attention from public as there will be around 2000 people in church on sunday masses.

Kochukkan said...

Coppel parishoners, I feel sad for you. But all this spirit will go away in matter of weeks. Look what happened in Chicago. When it comes to Church/Faith/Achans, words will stay in this site. Thats what happened in Chicago. "Theepantham" started, but there was no Action. Just ... valaa...valaa-nnu ee site-il ezhuthum... now not even that... so, what I'm saying is, wasting time on this site only gives pleasure to others. If you want to do something do it !

Commander said...

For the Comment #14-Replay
Don't Worry! . We are not ready to send Fr. Saji alone to Bishop House ,they may kill him. We are afraid of that. If they are doing that much mental torcher to a poor priest .that is why we are coming along with him to Chicago.
Don't worry! We will continue till our demands agreed ,by bishop .Even sunday or more. He steel our Church, Our money and our dignity . So we will occupy his Licon car and palace . Let us see who will win finally .
This is not Chicago people . We are coppelites . We will fight like gurillas . We will fight until we win. We will use all stategies . This fight is going to win. Don't be loos hearted people .

Mr Chacko said...

You are thinking our sprite will go down. No. We are expecting more ugly game from bishop house .

Watch and See
There will days after 15th April too. We want to see ,which Fox is going to enter into our church.
Oru Kallan ellam kattondu pokunnathinekkal nallathanu ,Njangal Engish palliyil pokkunnath. This will go for foreclosure for ever. We are well planned and prepared , we will be using different strategies . If you are ready to help us ,please organize meetings & pryer rally in front of cathedral and all other parishes. You are all going to watch second round agitation after 15th

Anonymous said...

It is time for Bishop to wake up and shake off bad influences around him.

Bishop's last two weeks actions and revenge are all misteps and miscalculations.

Even if you don't give any achens to Coppell church, one thing is for sure your intension of putting Claver cross in altar is never going to happen.

We majority of the parishioners will only contribute when you will give in writting that you or any achens coming to this Coppel church won't try to install any other cross in the altar.

"Our altar won't be modified to include any other cross anytime", this is the guarenty we need from you before we contribute any more money to our church or chicago diocese.

If you can not understand this, this church will be manged by Chicago only and you may need to find money for mortgage, anyway you showed us by freezing our bank accounts how cheap you are.

Now if you don't give in writting that you won't mess with our altar, you have to come up with money to manage it.

Anonymous said...

തിരുശീല വിരോധികളുടെ ഗുണ്ട പരിപാടികള്‍ക്ക് മേലെ തിരുശീല വീണെന്ന് തോന്നുന്നു. വകിലെന്മാരും ഗുണ്ടതലവന്മാരും പേടിച്ചു മാളങ്ങളില്‍ കയറി ഒള്ളിചിര്രിക്കുകയാണോ

Anonymous said...

Hello Voice,

Do you have the latest picture of the inside chapel of the Syro Malabar Cathedral? Could you please add to the picture gallery in the front page?

Bishop Angadiath and his crooks are thinking that whatever they are spiting then believers is ready to swallow. The Chicago Cathedral is worst cathedral in the entire globe without any sanity, purity and holiness.

Anonymous said...

ഈ കൊപ്പേൽ വാര്‍ത്തകള്‍ ഒക്കെ സത്യമാണെങ്കില്‍ ചിക്കാഗോ ഭരണകൂടം (ബിഷപ്പ്ഉം കൂട്ടരും) ഒക്കെ യേശു ക്രിസ്തുവിന്റെ followers ആണെന്ന് എങ്ങനെ അവര്‍ക്ക് പറയാന്‍ പറ്റും. ഇവര്‍ ഒക്കെ സാക്ഷാല്‍ hypocrites.... ഉദാഹരണങ്ങള്‍ നോക്കൂ: ബിഷപ്പ്ന്റെ മാളിക, കാറ്, frequent trips to India. ഇവര്‍ നമ്മളോട് പ്രസങ്ങിക്കുന്നതെന്ത്? ഇവര്‍ എങ്ങനെ ജീവിക്കുന്നു? ഇവര്‍ ആര്‍കെങ്കിലും (പാവങ്ങള്‍ക്) എന്തെങ്കിലും കൊടുത്തതായി അറിവുണ്ടോ? ഇവര്‍ നമ്മള്‍ കഷ്ടപ്പെട്ടുണ്ടാക്കിയ പണം പല രീതികളില്‍ കൈക്കല്‍ ആക്കിയിട്ടു നമ്മളെ വെറും ഊമ്പന്‍മാരാക്കുവല്ലേ?

Anonymous said...

you are right mr. kochukkan.......comment #15.. there is a malayalam proverb.."ettile pashu pullu thinnilla".. that means , the cow shown in a book doesn't eat grass..all these spirit will go away in a matter of time. if we,the koppel brothers in jesus are really pumped up, it is time to show some action. bunch of anonymous cowards including me, are shouting inside a room with doors closed. it is time for everybody to come out and show their courage and spirit. common guys, let's do it...

Anonymous said...

Since the fourth century, the Roman Catholic Church has been developing regulations that have had some influence on secular (non-church-related) legal procedures. These regulations are called canons and are codified in the Code of Canon Law (in Latin, Codex juris canonici).
Some experts had interpreted the laws about financial matters and assets as follows.

" The assets of the Church are trust property for the benefit of its whole community. It is, therefore, only fair that the community should participate in the administration of those assets and be informed about transactions involving those assets."

Canon law requires parishes to appoint a finance council and undergo audits , said the Rev. Phillip Brown, an assistant professor of canon law who specializes in church property and finances at Catholic University of America in Washington, D.C.
So what is the situation in your parish, brothers?

Anonymous said...

ഒരു സംശയം ചോദിച്ചോട്ടെ? നിങ്ങളുടെ ആവേശം കുറഞ്ഞോ?. ഇപ്പോൾ ഹിറ്റ്‌ കൗണ്ടർ നമ്പർ പഴയതു പോലെ സ്പീടിൽ മൂവു ചെയ്യുന്നുമില്ല, പുതിയ ചൂടൻ വാർത്തകൾ ഒന്നും കാണുന്നുമില്ല! എന്താണു കാരണം?

Anonymous said...

Have anybody, ever checked, what kind of cross His Excellency bishop Angadiath and His Highness archbishop Powathil wear with their official dress? Is it a regular cross with Jesus on it or the so called controversial Mar Thomma cross?

Anonymous said...

ബഹുമാനപ്പെട്ട വെബ്‌ മാസ്റ്ററേ, അറിവുള്ള വായനക്കാരേ, മാന്യ ശ്രീ ജോർജു് മൂലേച്ചാലിൽ അവർകളേ,
ദയവായി ആരെങ്കിലും ഈ എളിയ വായനക്കാരന്റെ സംശയത്തിനു് ഉത്തരം തരുമോ?
1. ആകമാന സുറിയാനി സഭയിൽ മൊത്തം എത്ര രൂപതകൾ? അതിൽ എത്ര എണ്ണം മാർത്തോമ്മ കുരിശിനെ പിൻതാങ്ങുന്നു?
2. തൂങ്ങപ്പെട്ട രൂപത്തിനു പകരം മാർത്തോമ്മ കുരിശു പ്രതിഷ്ടിക്കണമെന്നു പറയാൻ കാരണമെന്തു്?
3.ഈ മാർത്തോമ്മാ കുരിശും മാനിക്കേയൻ കുരിശും ഒന്നാണെങ്കിൽ മാർപ്പാപ്പ എന്തുകൊണ്ടു് ഇതിൽ ഇടപെടുന്നില്ല?

Anonymous said...

Courtesy to Indian Express edition on Friday, April 24, 1998


Row over `Mar Thoma Cross' may take unholy turn
By Bonnie James

KOCHI, April 23: The fracas over the origin of the `Marthoma Cross' or `Manichaen Cross,' as it is termed by the respective factions in the Syro-Malabar Church, threatens to turn ugly. It is the decision of the Nazrani Catholica Paithruka Samrakshana Samithi to consign to flames the Manichaen symbol and the new parish council rules on May 7 that lends a strong emotional touch to the issue. The consequences of the samithi's move are unpredictable. The name `Marthoma' comes from St Thomas who propagated Christianity in India while the latter term is derived from Mani, who lived in Persia in the third century and founded the Manichaen sect, a mixture of Christianity and Zoroastrianism. Incidentally, a pastoral letter of Changanassery Archbishop Joseph Powathil, the bete noire of the samithi, with an exhaustive explanation on the need to respect the `Cross' had imparted a new twist to the dispute.
According to him, the Holy Cross was a revered object in the Church from ancient times. While refuting theallegation that the Cross opposes the Crucifix, he made clear his stand for the installation of the former in the altar instead of the latter. ``The devotion to the Crucifix was propagated here only after the 16th century by missionaries. Although it is not necessary to stop venerating the Crucifix, it is clear that it cannot express the mystery of Christ fully. The cross, the symbol of resurrection, is the apt object to be installed in the altar,'' the Archbishop who wears the same cross as his pectoral cross maintained.

In this context, it has to be recalled that move to install the disputed cross in the churches of the Archdiocese of Changanassery has been creating tension.

Terming Mani as an `absurd prophet,' Archbishop Powathil contested the view that the `Marthoma Cross' was Manichaen. After the letter, which also `warned' against `those conducting misinformation campaigns,' was read on March 29 in the churches of the Archdiocese, there was a flurry of activity in the rival camp. The All India Catholic Association unit, Changanassery, challenged the Archbishop to prove that the cross in question was `brought' by St Thomas himself. ``Has this cross been approved by the Synod ?'' and ``If so, then why it is not being installed in the altar of churches in all dioceses?'' were among the other questions. In the opinion of Fr C J Varkey, director, Charismatic Retreat Centre, Kulathuvayal, the `Manichaen Cross,' is not to be exhibited at all in churches and altars. ``This was brought to Kerala by Mani himself. Abandoned during sixth century it surfaced as `Marthoma Cross.'

There is no dearth for varied arguments and counter arguments on the issue. But one thing is certain. As Thrissur Archbishop Jacob Thoomkuzhy said before a Synodal session, it is the duty of the Synod to remove the doubts in the minds of the faithful. Till then, the situation in the Church would continue to be volatile.

Copyright © 1998 Indian Express Newspapers (Bombay) Ltd.

commander said...

Wait and see! What we are going to do .
As usual Bishop house will not appoint any priest for time being instead of that , they are going to ask local priest (Garland priest and Kananya church priest ) come and do Sunday mass. We are expecting the same …. .That means they Bishop house is going to give the “Vadi”.
Today the issues is in between Bishop house and Koppel parishioners. The day which Fr Saji leaving the parish. The troubles are going to start Garland and Bishop house ..

If Bishop house having similar issue, Does Major Arch Bishop will Close down that? Whether he Freeze the Accounts of Chicago Dioceses. Did Major arch bishop will issue a Decry to suspend Chicago Bishop ? Wait and See!. These fools of Chicago bishop house is going to learn new lesson


You may not need to read the news on Blog any more ,Next 16th onwards you can read lot of news in all news papers including all Malayalam and English daily's . “Vencharikkunnathinu munbu Kunjadine konna katha” and more ...

We are keeping silence This is a silence ,just before STORM. Moreover ,we never created issues. Issues created by Bishop house . They done the maximum,they can ,nothing more .That is why there is no new news .

But we are not like that, we are not cowards , we will fight until, the victory . We have clear cut strategies. We know where to go. Where to lead people . Wait and See! .Just giving highlights

Anonymous said...

Reply to comment # 12

Your question of "Indications that Jesus did have a homosexual orientation"

Answer follows"

You b*st*rd are u a christian?

Go to San Francisco where u may find someone like you "rear end happy ones".

Anonymous said...

Reply to message # 15

Mr. Kochukkan

u may go away in matter of weeks.

what I'm saying is, wasting ur time, on things you don't understand only gives pleasure to others.

If you want to do something do it for you, not to please somebody else !

Seems like u don't know proper Malayalam.

Anonymous said...

Hello Coppell members:

Can someone post the full chronology of events that happened in the church since inception of the church. We, the members of various Syromalabar community, would like to know the full details of this issue. So that we can take precautionary measures against such move by the Bishop in the future.

You guys did the right thing, and keep it up, Jesus will bless you immensely.

Also, it would be very kind, if you could post the names of the traitors in the Coppell church.

Thanks again for keeping this blog site active with your comments.

Love in Jesus

Anonymous said...

Coppell Catholics:

അള്‍ത്താരയില്‍ ക്രൂശിത രൂപം സ്ഥാപിച്ചത് കൊണ്ടാണ് ഫാ സജിയെ മാറ്റുന്നതെന്ന് പറയാനുള്ള ആണത്തം ബിഷപ്പിനോ കൂട്ടര്‍ക്കോ ഇല്ല.

തങ്ങളുടെ കുരിശ് സത്യ കുരിശെന്ന് അവര്‍ വിശ്വസിക്കുന്നെങ്കില്‍, ശീലയില്‍ അവര്‍ സത്യമായും വിശ്വസിക്കുന്നെങ്കില്‍, എന്തുകൊണ്ട് ചങ്കൂറ്റത്തോടെ അതേറ്റു പറയുവാന്‍ അവര്‍ കൂട്ടാക്കുന്നില്ല.

തങ്ങളുടെ അന്ധവിശ്വാസങ്ങള്‍ ജനങ്ങളുടെ മേല്‍ പിന്‍വാതിലില്‍ ക്കൂടി അടിച്ചേല്‍പ്പിക്കുവാന്‍ ശ്രമിക്കുന്നത് തന്നെ അങ്ങാടിയത്തിന്റെ ഈ വിശ്വാസങ്ങളുടെ അടിസ്ഥാനമില്ലാല്മയെയാണ് തെളിയിക്കുന്നത്.

Anonymous said...

Bishop ഇപ്പോള്‍ ശീല എന്നാ വിഗ്രഹത്തെ ആണ് ആരാധിക്കുന്നത്, അല്ലെ?

Anonymous said...

IT IS OUR RIGHT TO KNOW WHAT IS THE FINANCIAL ALLIGATION AGAINEST FR.SAJI. BISHOP AND KAIKKARANS SHOULD EXPLAIN TO US .WE WANT TO CLEAR IT BEFORE ACHAN LEAVE.

Anonymous said...

This site is dumb.

Anonymous said...

Dear Blogger,
All on a sudden there is a jump in kaduppan's rating.Yesterday it was 406/166.Today it is 411/208.Why it is so?Too much variations.There is some proble.Do it right.

Anonymous said...

Dear Blogger,

Kaduppan's voting percentage jumped from 29 to 33 in few hours.It was 72% against him this morning and it is now 66%.That means when he got 52 votes today 5 votes polled against him.That is not right.It cannot be that way.Something is not right.

Anonymous said...

Kaduppan and party is very frantic and canvassing for votes.If they don't care about this blog why his party is so concerned.

We have only two parties here.

1.Kaduppan's party(Devil'sParty)

2.Jesus'S party(TRUE BELIEVERS' PARTY)