Thank you very much for creating this site “Syro Malabar Voice”. It is needed; we need a common place to communicate what is happening in our Mallu community in US and around the world.
There is no need of hiding the name of the priest who stole money from the Church Treasury, let the world know who the priest is – it is our parish priest. Our community in Orange County is of the opinion that, this priest is here to only make money in any way he could. He came up with a scheme to buy 15 Acres of in the Riverside County, build a Mission named after Mother Teresa and homes for the community and a large Orange farm and his dream goes on like that. But if you ask for a strategic plan or master plan for this huge project, he or his disciples have no answer. Even he came up with a scheme for the investors, just link people’s 401K plan to his scheme, and he claims that once you signed up in the plan then you do not have to worry about anything, after all you are doing a great contribution to our community. Uncle he is very crook and shroud, his mind is the birth place of all sorts of wicked things you can ever imagine.
After all these problems our community is facing, and even reporting this situation to the Bishop Angadiath, he is not taking any action either, he claims that the said priest is my teacher and how can I do any harm to my guru (who taught me all these wearied things) that means in a way Bishop has given a green signal to him to do whatever he likes, after all these are our brothers from Kerala, we know them very well, they are Para religious any way. Ha Uncle, these Mallus are Para in a way looking for a chance to put Para on others for their own temporary benefit.
Our parish priest is supposed to say Holy Mass in English for the your generation at least once a month, so that the grown youngsters could stay with their family to go to Church and be part of the community, but he never said even one Holy Mass in English, the funny thing is that he has all the time in the world to say Holy Mass in Spanish for the Spanish speaking community here, you know, that is where the money is, that goes to his own treasury, no account keeping, nothing. Even some of the elders of the Church, who were deeply involved in building this church demanded to have an audit done to see the status of the Church fund, but he did not do the way the community wanted, but tactfully picked his own disciples to do the Mickey mouse audit and he announced in the Church that audit results are fantastic and there are no discrepancies. How can we trust this person? How long he is going to do this to our community? I know my uncle was deeply involved in building our community long time ago and finally we got this Church, but in this rate, do you think this Church will last long enough to serve our community? Our your mind says that, in this rate, our Syro Malabar Church will fail much sooner than we think, this is the beginning of the down fall of the Syro Malabar and may become Zero Malabar.
Our Orange County parish priest is keenly working on building on Missions all over the country, but his Mission has only one vision, how to make my Mission as a Machine to make money. See how crook he is, he does not love children, no respect to the parish community at all, everything he manages according to his wish, as long as the Bishop supports in all the things he does, this dog and pony show will go for some more time.
29 comments:
This is sad and as we can see, this is some one from the young generation, born and brought up here writing!!!!! Our kids would do much better with out these zero churches......
still you didn't mention the name of the priest! any way it's a good article to read and be aware of.
We need answers???????????????
Our Bishop &
Fr.Roy Kadupil &
Fr.George Madathiparambil &
Fr.Vinod Madathiparambil .
1)You bought a building on St.Charles Road in Chicago for $825,000.00 and sold last month for$175,000.00 net loss of $650,000.00.
2) You bought Bishop house in Chicago for 2.2 million dollars.It is worth today(as per market survey) $825,000.00
net loss $1.375 Million.
3) Who is responsible for the huge loss of money, it is our faithfuls hard earned money.
4)Can you all Rev.Fathers and Mar. Bishop together accepting the responsibility and say at least sorry or admit mistake to the faithfuls ?.
5) Can you all take the
responsibility of the lost
peace of mind of faithfuls for
your stupid Claver/sheela?.
6) Can you all take the
responsibility of making
mistakes again and again ?.
What is your parish council doing there?.Only advising as envisaged in syro malabar way?.
If you are donating, then you should have the right to know where your money is going!
This is where transparancy and accountability of the transactions required.If the priest is Bishop's friend, then every thing is OK.He can serve there for 12 years atleast!.Will the Bishop will consider a trnansfer policy which allowes only three year term in US for priests?.
To know the vicar's name please go to the link "Letter to the Editor" which is in the home page.
I did a Google search for the name of the priest and got this link.http://www.stthomassyromalabar.com/index.html
If it is the same person then this post is absolutely true. Please see the mass schedule. There is no Malayalam daily mass !!! Only Spanish mass!!!! Fr. Saji from Coppell church used to celebrate mass for the group of less than 10 too on a regular basis.
Please fwd this blog to your fellow church members and let them also voice against this.
Bishop is making His own grave.Only few people get that chance and he is one of them,so he is lucky.We all will have party and fireworks that day pray hard so it may come soon and our community will be saved.
Fr.Saji use to say 3 mass on sundays it includes morning 2 masses and evening an another mass in church itslef.Then he use to go for house blessing and prayer meetings.He use to donate to church what ever money he use to get from house blessing and other private functions.
This is very sad and in fact highly despicable. I do not belong to your church, not because I had anything against anyone of you but because I did not have the minimum money to give at that time. I do not blame anyone for that because money was absolutely necessary to move forward.
Most of you, if not all of you are well settled here and are doing well. This is a GIFT from GOD the almighty, not from Fr. Saji or the Bishop. Both Fr. Saji and the Bishop are church representatives and we should respect them, even if you do not like them.
Raising allegations against others with the cover of anonymous name is not an honorable thing. If you call yourselves Catholics, irrespective of whether you side with Fr. Saji, the bishop or for one type of a cross over other these abuses need to stop.
Even the name of a retired senior priest from Changanacherry with relatives here was unnecessary drawn to this with serious allegations. Does the person have any credible evidence to support that allegation? If so he should file a compliant with the Bishop and the Police. If not he should apologize to the community. Someone then mentioned his niece here, what harm has those people done to anyone. If you can’t see that person as your own sister in catholicism, your faith then is hollow. Enough is enough.
Please, please respect others, be a catholic and be a Christian one who follows Jesus. Not the devil.
Joseph Chacko
Its really funny to see Fr. Dr. Dr. J !! We don't need these types of doctorates to take care of spiritual needs. We need Simple, humble, Spiritual Ones like Fr. SAJI. Hope Angady gets the message..
Like Guru, the Sishyan too !!
Priests should find a job and they should stop accepting money from church and church members.They should do this like a social work or charity work.
Most of them it is a buisiness now.
Yatha GURU; Thadha Shishyan !!
Wonderfool DR DR DR Angady athu.
Its interesting .. Dangerous SANTA ANA Winds !!!
This Zero Malabar Church has Spanish Mass everyday! and Malayalam Mass only on Sunday !! Looks like angady's ancestors are Hispanic !
Author is accurate : More money in Spanish mass than an English mass for Young generation. This priest certainly has his priorities RIGHT !!!!
Can any of the Chicago high priests give an advice to overcome my personal hurtbreaking and bitter feelings due to this CROSS/sheela war.I TOO RAN FOR THE CHURCH,COTRIBUTED BEYOND MY CAPACITY AND WAS VERY HAPPY WHEN THE DREAM CAME TRUE.
What are the after effects?I was hoping to have a memorial MASS for my mother in the new church.But ALAS!no MASS on Mondays,Tuesdays and Wednesdays.I went to the churchfor a visit,Everything was locked up and not even a fly was flying around.
IS it that, one should pray and perform relegious rites as per Chicago's directives??
WHY THE CHURCH IS ON PARTIAL LOCKOUT????
Why putting Dr.DR.??? Is it given any preferences?.
So this priest is now in double role.Assume there will not be any spanish speaking Malayalees there he has to do the spanish mass in Latin Rite?.There is no probelm for a priest to do the mass in latin rite , only the laity got problem to participate?
Hope you do not have to deal with Claver for the time being?
Orange County,
Why do you allow that priest to have mass in Spanish? Go in group and stand in Alter and prevent him from having spanish mass. Is this just a business for him to conduct only spanish mass in a syro malabar church? He does not have any time to conduct mass in malayalam every day? The church is yours right? Ask him him to get out of the church if he cannot conduct malayalam mass every day. I still don't understand that our Bishop take no action on such arrogance. If there is curtain in alter he does not care anything else. Evn if the priests conduct "chathan seva" in alter that is also ok for this bishop provided there is curtain and marthoma cross in alter. If these priests and bishop show rowdyism, you have to return that as well. Then only they will learn a lesson. Also file complaints to Syro Malabar Curia in EKM, and sent a note to Pope as well. You have to act, without action nothing is going to happen.
ASSAN ONNU PIZHACHAL SIKSYAN 1001 PIZHAKYUM.
We have 2 churches in California.One is LA and the other one is Orange County.
You can see the diffrences.
Bishop support this old priest for what ever he does no matter it is right or not.
If you want you can come here a Sunday and makesure it.
Read John 6: 70
Jesus answered them “Did I not choose you twelve? Yet is not one of you a devel?”
Please welcome to Dr. Dr. Kattackal’s Ponzi Investment scheme.
http://stalphonsagroup.com/
http://www.stthomassyromalabar.com/
Lion share of our Malayalee community here in Orange County are so dedicated and are very religious, they do not care if the Holy Mass is in Malayalam or in Spanish. They have no guts to speak against Kattackal’s activities that ruin the community. Instead of joining the community, he has divided the community for his own benefit, majority of our mallus are speechless and they have no voice. There was great potential for this community to grow and perform God’s work in this great country, but parasites like Kattackal have ruined the integrity and unity of our community. Kattackal is not pleased with one of his student’s English Mass Booklet published from the Diocese of Chicago, so he decided to say Holy Mass in a language more profitable to him.
It is great that we can voice our opinions and frustrations that we have about our church here. However, my suggestion is that before throwing mud at anybody make sure it is a fact. Partial fact is still a lie.
I believe we can disagree strongly without being disrespectful. Though we may not agree with many of our Priests' action we are to show them respect as consecrated men of Christ. god bless
Every Syro Malabar church can now share the same stories all over the US!
They divide the "devotees"(Not sure if we have many more devotees of these leaders or the real God) and the true faithful. Compartmentalize for their own benefits! Family Units for churches with less that 10 members!
Malayalees were told that the Latin churches will not let them have service in their own language and we will miss to see our cultural and traditional ceremonies. Initially and even today they make us feel insecure!!. Be proactive folks!
Are these now Syro Malabar churches or Zero Malayalam Churches?
Kerala Catholics are not united today and the reason is the divide and rule techniques the leaders use..
Shame on you Leaderes.
Comment #8
Well said. These people don't know the basic fundamentals and they think they can govern everything by giving a contribution. The interesting part is that some of these trouble makers have not even contributed the minimum requested amount. These are the people who want to control everything. Even if you give $100,000, you cannot say or do anything because this is a church and they have to learn to respect the leaders whether they like them or not. They always have an option to go somewhere else but, they will not do that because they know they cannot take this elsewhere.
I take this opportunity to seek your help to start this blog service in every church and chapter units functioning under the syromalabar diocese in USA. As I go through your blog everyday, it is becoming crystal clear that our faithful has been subjected to unheard of corruptin practces by our bishop and his crony priests through systematic exploitation, naked nepotism, aggresive partiality and favortism for a bunch of crooks in every syromalabar church in this country. Fiannacial misappropriation, under the shield of CANON LAW, flouting all the natural and moral laws prevalent in the civilized world, has become a curse in our syromalabar churches. Our bishop and all our priests here are motivated with one thing ---MONEY---MONEY--MONEY .Luxurious life has replaced simple and austere life set apart for the clergy. Huge mansions are being built for themselves and their relataves back in kerala. some priests earn money from different sources at the same time, amassing wealth. Where is your CHARITY, POVERTY AND CHASTITY VOWS GONE? SHAME ON YOU HYPOCRITES!Some priests in the Diocean Heaqdquarters are working hard to force their parochial interest , representing CHANGANASERRY AND PALAI BELT ONLY and their attitude towards other Dioceses in India is sheer HATRED and ENVY.REMEMBER GOD WILL PUNISH YOU FOR THIS MORTAL SINS. Let me wind up this short note with requesting you again that you may please start this blog in every syromalabar church in this country.
For goodness' sake:
Please STOP giving too much money to church.
Please STOP giving too much money to priests.
If you have too much money in your bank account, go buy food and give to local food bank.
If you have too much money, give to Vincent De Paul society in your church or one in the nearest English church.
If you have too much money, give some to Food For Children. They feed the poor and orphan children all over the world.
Stop padding the pockets of your priests with your dollars.
the informations we get here, in this blog, are very scary my dear brothers! hope none of them are true. if it is true, is there any way we can stop it? what do the the priest from our country, especially from the god's own country think about? this is not kerala, this is america man, freekin' america. there wouldn't be any freekin' politicians to cover up there gluteus maximus(buttocks) because of the clout of the money they are holding
http://www.wfaa.com/news/investigates/Fellowship-Church-Jet-Travels-To-Exotic-Destinations-92134294.html
it's not only the syro church that wastes hard earned money given to the church by faithfuls.
Thank you poster #25,
...and who is feeding these crooks? We are.
You know how much you pay in India to have a priest celebrate qurbana for you.
Why do you pay 200 times more here?
Let the fools who want to pay 200 times more do so. But at least don't feel obligated to pay that much, just because another idiot does so.
SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU Buy in HIS name !!. You are nobody after that !! Do not buy the church in the name of diocese. Form a charitable trust for your parish and buy church in the name of the trust and Diocese together. The habit of bishop towards you will change the next day you register church in the name of diocese, Living examples are Chicago and Coppell. Or just RENT. You will have peace and respect always !
I am very saddened by what is going on in Orange County Syro Malaber Church. What has been written about the "Dr.Dr." is correct. The bishop told us that we will have a new priest 4 years ago. To this date, the bishop has not kept his promise. This "Dr.Dr". manipulates the bishop for personal financial reasons. This priest is 80 plus years old and why he would not go back to India? I can tell the readers that bisop Angadiath has lost all his credibility and respect among all of us. I am really praying for a change at all levels !!!
I see someone raised a question.
Why do you allow this Preist to say Mass in Spanish at Syro Malabar Church Santa Ana California? The answer is this. None of us had Mother's breast milk. Not even a single one.
Parish council members are (if there are any) not elected but nominated puppets. They do not have any opinion of their own. There are some real estate agents out there looking for business and do not care what is happening.
There were outside vendor business presentations conducted at the church aside the Alter.
Spanish classes were arranged for the whole community in the past and not even a single puppet asked why we need this. They all bought books and attended the class as commanded. After Mass, food is provided and if they decided they do not need to go home. The chief cook and family stayed almost most of the time at the church. Just like the recent Nithyananda's model.
There is a lay men association (smcc) local unit eastablished for the last two years. They call themselves lay men association but in reality they have not lifted a finger in any of these issues. I do not think that they ever will or even can. If they do, there will be another set of names will be nominated within days so they better hold on to what they have. They pose for pictures during Bishop's visit and publish souvenirs quite often.
Another majority group, they are very silent regardless of what happens and they do not want to be looked bad guys.
Another group, after tired of waiting Bishop's corrective action, left the church years ago.
Whatelse a Preist needs to act his one man show and make double income. He does not even has to file tax, because there is no income or accounting.
If there is a diocesian investigation for financial mismanangement and procedural rules violation,it should be started from Santa Ana, California.
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