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Sunday, July 25, 2010

A Reader Writes About the New Grotto and Parking Lot

Dear SYRO MALABAR VOICE Please bring the new PARKING + GROTTO conspiracy to people's attention. The new Parking Lot and Grotto seem to be a VERY secret agenda of Syro Malabar Church Authorities.    In Chicago we spend more than 10 Million for the church, 2.2 Million for Bishop House and a lousy office place for 850K. A Total of 13Million + in a very distressed, dilapidated place. Clearly this gave the chance for some so-called leaders to put their names in the church wall. Tell me, who would invest 10 Mil+ in a place like HELLWOOD? We could have purchased a beautiful church somewhere in DesPlaines or other decent town for half the price. The six churches the Knanaya community purchased, especially the one in Morton Grove is a prime example. I bet if the Voice had raised its voice at that time, many mistakes could have been avoided during the above mentioned 13 Million extravaganzas . Anyway, past is past and all we can do now  is .. look into future. The Members of this parish want to know about The NEW Parking Lot – What’s Church Plan on doing these? What’s the Budget? How many new parking spaces are going to be created? Where the Grotto  is going to be built? How the Grotto will look like? Will there be a Mani Cross on the Grotto too? What’s the architecture diagram for the new Grotto? What will be Bishop’s new acts on the Grotto? (The recent things in the Coppel Church bring down all respect to the Bishop and I feel like it’s a Ghost House rather than a Bishop House) Without the above questions answered, how can the people  contribute to the above project? The parish trustees and some other parish council members are doing another irresponsible job as usual.  The problem we have among malayalees is we take everything for granted. They act like this Yeah.. The Grotto Plan and Parking Plan are approved in Pastoral Council Meeting. So the Public Donkeys does not need to know anything about it. JUST Pay the $$$ and co-operate with the church. Frankly, my case is I am very reluctant to say No to Church Things. This could be the same scenario with many other people too. I HOPE SYRO MALABAR VOICE will take a strong interest in this and bring this issue into the RED RADAR. That way atleast this will be handled with some responsibility
July 24, 2010 11:29 PM
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Anonymous said...

നമമുടെ പിതാവിന് കൂദാശാ രൂപത്തിന്‍റെ മുന്നില്‍ അതെല്ലെങ്കില്‍ കൂദാശാ രൂപത്തിന്‍റെ നിന്നുകൊണ്ട് വിശുദ്ഡ ബെലി നടത്തുവാന് വിരോധമില്ലാത്തതുകോണ്ട് കോപ്പേലിലേ പിളേളര് ബഹുഭൂരിപക്ഷതോടെ ,കോപ്പേലിലേദേവാലയത്തിലെ അള്‍ത്താര പണുത് ഉയര്‍ത്തിയതുപോലെ നമമുടെ പിതാവിന്‍റെ തലയിലെ മനിക്കേയന്‍ കുരിശുളള തോപ്പി മാറ്റിയിട്ട്, കൂദാശാ രൂപത്തിന്‍റെ തോപ്പി നമമുടെ പിതാവിന്‍റെ തലയില്‍ വച്ചുകോടുകാന്‍ വേണ്ടി കോപ്പേലിലേ പിളേളര് തെയാറായി ഇരിക്കുവാണ്. പിതാവിന് കോപ്പേലിലേയക്ക് വന്നട്ടുവേണം പിതാവേ!.....

Anonymous said...

This diosis sucks.
who was the contrater for this building?

Anonymous said...

നിരപരാതിയായ സജിയച്ചനെ പിതാവ് ഉപധ്രവിച്ചപ്പോള്‍,നുണയനായ നമമുടെ ചിക്കാഗോലേ ബിഷപ്പിന്‍റെ അടിതറ ഇളക്കാ രീതിയിലല്ലേ,ചിക്കാഗോലേ കത്തീഡ്രറ്റ് ദേവാലയം, ദൈവം തന്നേ ഇന്നലത്തെ മഴയില്‍ മുക്കി താത്തിയത്. ബിഷപ്പേ ദൈവത്തിനോട് കളിച്ചാല്‍ ഇങ്ങനേയിരിക്കും കൊപ്പേല്‍ പിളേളരുപോലേയല്ലാ നമമുടെ ദൈവം.

Anonymous said...

REWARD FOR CRUSIFYING A PRIEST.


ENJOY THE WATER GAME IN CHICAGO

Anonymous said...

Why do you public donkeys think you have to donte (or even support) the grotto business?

Why can't you just keep your wallt closed? If you must spend, then give help to the REAL charitable organizations that are feeding the hungry, colthing the naked, building homes and hopes for the homeless.

Get involved in REAL charitable organizations. Spend some time reading what they do. Spend some time talking to them on the phone. Spend some time working alone side them. Then you will understand the meaning of "Go in peace to love and serve the Lord".

Anonymous said...

Grotto & the Parking Lot!
“I bet if the Voice had raised its voice at that time, many mistakes could have been avoided during the above mentioned 13 Million extravaganzas” – I DOUBT.
No matter what reasonable/knowledgeable/practical advice/suggestion given to these packs of syro-clowns they are not going to become better; worst yet - they are shameless after the utter failures – history repeats itself. They have the poor conception of the common fund. As long as their names are on the wall or in the print they try to shine with others’ money!
Whom to blame? Blame the U.S.-Syro-authority whose backbones are made up of banana! At present, Mar Angadiath is a failure in all senses. A good percentage of U.S. Syro-Malabarians hate to see him failing again and again. He should have left the Chair at least two years ago. If he had a nominal foresight or common sense he wouldn’t have to face this much shame (well, if he knows the meaning of the word). Just read this Blog. The spectators see more than the players. Examples are plenty: Will anyone try to buy a house, in a housing complex (with a Home Owners Association) for church purpose. Fr. Angadiath did it in Dallas, in 1980s, ignoring the people who advised him not to do so. He just followed the directions of “experts” like Mr. K! He (we) lost money in that deal – who cares it is public money! Besides the “sweet” real estate deals in Chicago, what are they doing with the cathedral building? Garland, TX, church building, being built, is another dumpster now – they could have a better building and land for much less money. Well, who cares, it is the public money! The wallet holders, control the waste.
Mar Angadiath, resign and select a greener pasture – like a monastery life.
What do we do? HOLD ON TO YOUR WALLET, don’t get ripped off. I would put the greater blame on the ignorant lay people. There are a good number of members who are willing and able to hand out money to be wasted; and the smart “leaders” take advantage of these “followers”. STOP PAYING FOR USELESS PURPOSE. STOP SUPPORTING THE VAINGLORIOUS. Syro in the U.S., under the current leadership, is a disaster, no doubt.
OkcahC4 07/25/10

Anonymous said...

Grotto & the Parking Lot!
“I bet if the Voice had raised its voice at that time, many mistakes could have been avoided during the above mentioned 13 Million extravaganzas” – I DOUBT.
No matter what reasonable/knowledgeable/practical advice/suggestion given to these packs of syro-clowns they are not going to become better; worst yet - they are shameless after the utter failures – history repeats itself. They have the poor conception of the common fund. As long as their names are on the wall or in the print they try to shine with others’ money!
Whom to blame? Blame the U.S.-Syro-authority whose backbones are made up of banana! At present, Mar Angadiath is a failure in all senses. A good percentage of U.S. Syro-Malabarians hate to see him failing again and again. He should have left the Chair at least two years ago. If he had a nominal foresight or common sense he wouldn’t have to face this much shame (well, if he knows the meaning of the word). Just read this Blog. The spectators see more than the players. Examples are plenty: Will anyone try to buy a house, in a housing complex (with a Home Owners Association) for church purpose. Fr. Angadiath did it in Dallas, in 1980s, ignoring the people who advised him not to do so. He just followed the directions of “experts” like Mr. K! He (we) lost money in that deal – who cares it is public money! Besides the “sweet” real estate deals in Chicago, what are they doing with the cathedral building? Garland, TX, church building, being built, is another dumpster now – they could have a better building and land for much less money. Well, who cares, it is the public money! The wallet holders, control the waste.
Mar Angadiath, resign and select a greener pasture – like a monastery life.
What do we do? HOLD ON TO YOUR WALLET, don’t get ripped off. I would put the greater blame on the ignorant lay people. There are a good number of members who are willing and able to hand out money to be wasted; and the smart “leaders” take advantage of these “followers”. STOP PAYING FOR USELESS PURPOSE. STOP SUPPORTING THE VAINGLORIOUS. Syro in the U.S., under the current leadership, is a disaster, no doubt.
OkcahC4 07/25/10

Anonymous said...

Grotto & the Parking Lot!
“I bet if the Voice had raised its voice at that time, many mistakes could have been avoided during the above mentioned 13 Million extravaganzas” – I DOUBT.
No matter what reasonable/knowledgeable/practical advice/suggestion given to these packs of syro-clowns they are not going to become better; worst yet - they are shameless after the utter failures – history repeats itself. They have the poor conception of the common fund. As long as their names are on the wall or in the print they try to shine with others’ money!
Whom to blame? Blame the U.S.-Syro-authority whose backbones are made up of banana! At present, Mar Angadiath is a failure in all senses. A good percentage of U.S. Syro-Malabarians hate to see him failing again and again. He should have left the Chair at least two years ago. If he had a nominal foresight or common sense he wouldn’t have to face this much shame (well, if he knows the meaning of the word). Just read this Blog. The spectators see more than the players. Examples are plenty: Will anyone try to buy a house, in a housing complex (with a Home Owners Association) for church purpose. Fr. Angadiath did it in Dallas, in 1980s, ignoring the people who advised him not to do so. He just followed the directions of “experts” like Mr. K! He (we) lost money in that deal – who cares it is public money! Besides the “sweet” real estate deals in Chicago, what are they doing with the cathedral building? Garland, TX, church building, being built, is another dumpster now – they could have a better building and land for much less money. Well, who cares, it is the public money! The wallet holders, control the waste.
Mar Angadiath, resign and select a greener pasture – like a monastery life.
What do we do? HOLD ON TO YOUR WALLET, don’t get ripped off. I would put the greater blame on the ignorant lay people. There are a good number of members who are willing and able to hand out money to be wasted; and the smart “leaders” take advantage of these “followers”. STOP PAYING FOR USELESS PURPOSE. STOP SUPPORTING THE VAINGLORIOUS. Syro in the U.S., under the current leadership, is a disaster, no doubt.
OkcahC4 07/25/10

Anonymous said...

Why do you public donkeys think you have to donte (or even support) the grotto business?

Why can't you just keep your wallt closed? If you must spend, then give help to the REAL charitable organizations that are feeding the hungry, colthing the naked, building homes and hopes for the homeless.

Get involved in REAL charitable organizations. Spend some time reading what they do. Spend some time talking to them on the phone. Spend some time working alone side them. Then you will understand the meaning of "Go in peace to love and serve the Lord".

Anonymous said...

Why do you public donkeys think you have to donate (or even support) the grotto business?

Why can't you just keep your wallet closed? If you must spend money, then give it to help the REAL charitable organizations that are feeding the hungry, colthing the naked, building homes and hopes for the homeless.

Get involved in REAL charitable organizations. Spend some time reading what they do. Spend some time talking to them on the phone. Spend some time working alongside them. Then you will understand the meaning of "Go in peace to love and serve the Lord".

Anonymous said...

SMC IN USA

സ്വന്തം കുഞ്ഞാടുകളെ വെറും ഡിന്നര്‍, അല്ലെങ്കില്‍ വയറ്റില്‍പ്പിഴപ്പു മാത്രം ആയി മാത്രം കാണുന്ന ഇടയന്മാരാണ്‌ നമുക്കുള്ളത്.

അതെ, നമ്മള്‍ ഇടയന്മാരുടെ സൂപ്പും ബിരിയാണിയും മാത്രമാകാനുള്ള ബലിയാടുകള്‍ മാത്രം!

Anonymous said...

Kaduppan Watch out!!!!!!!!!!!!

വീട് കത്തിപ്പോയി എന്നറിഞ്ഞ ഗ്രഹനാഥന്‍ , സ്വന്തം ഭാര്യയെയോ, കുഞ്ഞുങ്ങളെ പറ്റിയോ ചിന്തിക്കാതെ, ഇന്‍ഷുറന്‍സ് തുകയെപ്പറ്റി ചോദിച്ചാല്‍ തീ കൊളുത്തിയത്തിനു പോലീസ് അയാളെ സംശയിചെന്നു വരാം.

Anonymous said...

Kaduppan Roy

തല പെയിന്റ് അടിച്ചു ശ്രീ കൃഷ്ണന്‍ ചമഞ്ഞ് നടക്കുന്ന ഒരു ചാന്‍സലര്‍.thendi kasmalan

Anonymous said...

Corrupt SMC in USA

Greater blame goes to the ignorant lay people like us.

There are a good number of members who are willing and able to hand out money to be wasted; and the smart “leaders” take advantage of these “followers”

Anonymous said...

2010 July 25 Sunday..Homily in Coppell Church by Visitor Priest.. Fr.Mathew Panthanical.

Fr.Mathew..
A Homily is a commentary that follows a reading of scripture…
Please don’t mess homily with “home lies…”
When you are talking anything take 100% ownership.. ..Please don’t speech for somebody.
Your homily was long, boring, and irritable to us as it is with BAD INTENTION..Do you have mike mania ?.And that is why I am ignoring it. I am able to analysis your intention behind your homily.. Any offer from Chicago Diocese to you?????

Better stay in PALA..Okay?..We have enough PALA diocese rejected priest here in Chicago… thinking that they are more powerful than Pope.

Anonymous said...

A bad beginning makes a bad ending unless a change. The Bishop with his circus team needs to be calling back by the SMC Synod. The SMC-USA has spoiled the 2000 years old good reputation of Syro Malabar church. For any practicing Catholics, the SMC-USA Bishop is considered as an infidel because he rejects the crucifix in a catholic Altar. The Vatican needs to remove him from his current role as the Bishop of SMC-USA.


There few priests like Fr. Panthalani in USA specifically funded and designed to support the Manichean cross and to support the SMC-Chicago Bishop with the cost of faithful. The so called priests are like cluster flies in the midst of Jack fruits and are modern time Judases. He was tempted by the Satan and he cannot resist because of the power of $. We do not want opportunist persists like him here.

There are many good Syro Malabar Priests in India and in USA. We need their service here for our spiritual growth. Now we are at cross roads because of the fraudulent SMC-Bishop Angadiath, the self claimed good shepherd who is really a wolf.

Proverbs 3:5-6 Trust in the LORD with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding; in all your ways acknowledge him, and he will make your paths straight.

Anonymous said...

I am from Chicago,

Our God is not a punishing God. Church readings are all about curses and threat meaning parts from the Bible.

Yes, that is their tricks here in Chicago also. The Priests are being instructed to do that because the Bishop thinks that the people are like Chicago-SMC in other part of USA. The Chicago Mass is verse; Sunday Mass is for the show time and for business only and there is no spirituality in the mass.


As Christians, we will never be punished for sin. That was done once for all. “There is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus” (Romans 8:1). Because of the sacrifice of Christ, God sees only the righteousness of Christ when He looks at us. Our sin has been nailed to the cross with Jesus, and we will never be punished for it.

Therefore be with Crucifix at the ends of the earth.

Anonymous said...

Comment to post # 31
Good and timely observation.
You are absolutely TRUE…absolutely true.

Chicago Syro Malabar Bishop..Mar Jacob Angadiyath..

This is the last chance to save the Diocese
No other short cuts, but need your urgent action.
Cancel the visa and send back the following two priests to Kerala immediately as they are proved to be lacking morality , and you may need to pay millions for damages in the near future.!!.Chicago Diocese may go to bankrupt..
1. Fr.Zhacarias Thottuvellil (must go)
2. Fr.Roy Kaduppil (must go).

Fr.Vinod Madathilparambil (must give a strict warning to him )

Otherwise, you can attend the FUNERAL OF OUR DIOCESE shortly..

Anonymous said...

hhhaaaaaaaaaa

Anonymous said...

fr.vinod madathiparambil is joke to st.alphonsa church..You are sound like a communist . Why don't you pray hard to Holy spirit then talk to us . WE the people in coppel think you are The Hitler. If you don't teach us anything is better because when you talk to us we are loosing faith. YOU CAN'T CONVERT ANYBODY TO CATHOLICISM .YOU ARE MAKING US BELIEVE THERE IS NO GOD. YOU ARE A GOOD EXAMPLE!!!! JUST LOOK AT THE MIRROR AND THINK ABOUT A MINUTE BEFORE YOU PREACH TO US IN COPPELL,IT IS A REQUEST...

Anonymous said...

hhhaaaa ass kisser

Anonymous said...

Chicago PEOPLE,

Have not you guys spent enough of your MONEY in WORTHLESS PROJECTS? Remember the BISHOP AND THE HIS ASCOCIATE CROOKS will always come up with ways to spend your hard earned money or for some, NOT SO HARD EARNED .

Please donate your extra money to humanitarian needs in the US or anywhere in the world or BACK TO KERALA , to our own people.
DO NOT TAKE PART IN WASTEFUL SPENDING.YOU WILL NOT GAIN ANYTHING OUT OF IT OTHER THAN SOME PHOTO SHOOTS WITH THE CROOKS.

NO NEED TO SPEND YOUR MONEY ON A GROTTO. TAKE YOUR FAMILY ON A VACATION.GO SEE THE BEAUTIFUL PLACES OF THE WORLD.DONATE TO THE WORLD ECONOMY NOT TO THE BISHOP'S AND CLERGY'S BANK ACCOUNTS.

GOD BLESS ALL...
fLORIDIAN