സാമ്പത്തിക തിരിമറി നടത്തി എന്ന വ്യാജ ആരോപണം ചുമത്തി അമേരിക്കയില് നിന്നും അങ്ങാടിയത്ത് നാട് കടത്തിയ ബ. സജി ചക്കിട്ടമുറിയിലിന് ദൈവത്തിന്റെ സ്വന്തം നാടായ കേരളത്തില് ഹാര്ദവമായ വരവേല്പ്പ്.
കൊപ്പേല് വിശ്വാസികള് സ്വന്തമായി വാങ്ങിയ പള്ളിയില് മാര് തോമ കുരിശും ശീലയും തൂക്കണമെന്ന ബിഷപ്പ് അങ്ങാടിയത്തിന്റെ ആവശ്യത്തിനു വഴങ്ങാതിരുന്ന ബഹുഭൂരിപക്ഷം വരുന്ന ഇടവകാംഗങ്ങളോട് അനുഭാവം കാണിച്ചതിനുള്ള
പ്രതികാരമായാണ് സജിയച്ചനെ വികാരി സ്ഥാനത്തു നിന്നു മാറ്റിയത്. യഥാര്ത്ഥ കാരണം തുറന്നു പറയാന് ധൈര്യമില്ലാത്ത ബിഷപ്പും കൂട്ടരും മറ്റു പല കള്ളക്കഥകളും അച്ഛന്റെ തലയില് കേട്ടിവയ്ക്കുവാന് ശ്രമിക്കുകയായിരുന്നു.
ഏതായാലും കേരളത്തില് തിരിച്ച് ചെന്ന ഫാ. സജി താമരശ്ശേരി രൂപതയിലെ ഏതെങ്കിലും ഒരു കൊച്ചു കുരിശുപള്ളിയില് ഒതുങ്ങിക്കൂടി കഴിയും എന്ന് വിശ്വസിച്ച അങ്ങാടിയത്തിന് തെറ്റിപ്പോയി. ബിഷപ്പിന്റെ കള്ളക്കഥകള് മുഖവിലക്ക് വാങ്ങുവാന് കേരളത്തിലെ മെത്രാന്മാര് തയ്യാറായില്ല എന്നാണ് ഞങ്ങള്ക്കു മനസ്സിലാക്കാന് കഴിഞ്ഞത്. ഫാ. സജിക്ക് കഴിഞ്ഞ ദിവസങ്ങളില് പല മെത്രാസന മന്ദിരങ്ങളിലും കിട്ടിയ ഹാര്ദവമായ സ്വീകരണം തന്നെ ഇതിനൊരു തെളിവാണ്.
നാട്ടില് തിരിച്ചെത്തിയ ഉടനെ ഫാ. സജി തന്റെ മെത്രാനായ താമരശ്ശേരി മെത്രാന് മാര് പോള് ചിറ്റിലപ്പിള്ളിയേയും മാര് റെമിജിയൂസ് ഇന്ചനാനിക്കലിനെയും കണ്ട് കൂടിക്കാഴ്ച നടത്തി. നടന്ന സംഭവങ്ങള് അക്കമിട്ടു അദ്ദേഹം ബഹുമാനപ്പെട്ട ബിഷപ്പുമാരെ ബോധിപ്പിച്ചു. സത്യാവസ്ഥ നേരിട്ട് കേട്ടു മനസ്സിലാക്കിയ അവര് ഫാ. സജിയോടു വളരെ അനുകൂല മനോഭാവമാണ് കാണിച്ചത്. തങ്ങളുടെ രൂപതയിലുള്ള ഒരു വൈദീകന്റെ മേല് വ്യാജമായ ആരോപണം നടത്തിയതില് ബിഷപ്പുമാര് അങ്ങാടിയത്തിനോട് തികഞ്ഞ അതൃപ്തി പ്രകടിപ്പിച്ചു. മാത്രമല്ല, അച്ഛനെ മാറ്റാനുള്ള യദ്ധാര്ത്ത കാരണമായ ക്ലാവര് കുരിശ്/ശീല വിഷയത്തില് അവര് ഫാ. സജിയെ നീതീകരിക്കുകയും ചെയ്തു. ഇക്കാര്യത്തില് അങ്ങാടിയത്തിന്റെ ഏകപക്ഷീയമായ നടപടികളിലും ഫാ. സജിയോടു കാട്ടിയ അനീതിയിലുമുള്ള അതൃപ്തി വ്യക്തമായ ഭാഷയില് അവര് പ്രകടിപ്പിക്കുകയും ചെയ്തു. ഓഗസ്റ്റ്ല് നടക്കാന് പോകുന്ന ബിഷപ്പുമാരുടെ സിനഡില് ഈ വിഷയത്തെപ്പറ്റി കാര്യമായ ചര്ച്ചയുണ്ടാകുമെന്നു ഞങ്ങള്ക്കു മനസ്സിലാക്കാന് കഴിഞ്ഞിട്ടുണ്ട്.
മേല്പ്പറഞ്ഞ കൂടിക്കാഴ്ച്ചക്കും രണ്ട് ദിവസത്തെ വിശ്രമത്തിനും ശേഷം ഏപ്രില് 30 ന് ഫാ സജി സീറോ മലബാര് സഭയുടെ ആസ്ഥാനമായ കാക്കനാട്ടില് St Thomas Mount ല് സന്ദര്ശനത്തിനായി പോയി. സീറോ മലബാര് കൂരിയ മെത്രാന് മാര് ബോസ്കോ പുത്തൂരുമായി മൂന്ന് മണിക്കൂറോളം സമയം അദ്ദേഹം ചര്ച്ചകള് നടത്തി. കോപ്പെലില് അടിക്കടി സംഗതികള് വഷളായിക്കൊണ്ടിരിക്കെ താന് രണ്ട് തവണ ചിക്കാഗോ സീറോ മലബാര് അധികാരികളുമായി ബന്ധപ്പെട്ടിരുന്നെന്നും, എന്നാല് ഇവിടെ ഒരു പ്രശ്നങ്ങളുമില്ലെന്ന മറുപടിയാണ് രണ്ട് തവണയും അദ്ദേഹത്തിന് കിട്ടിയതെന്നും മാര് ബോസ്കോ ഫാ. സജിയോടു പറഞ്ഞതായി ഞങ്ങള്ക്കു അറിവ് കിട്ടിയിട്ടുണ്ട്. ബിഷപ്പ് അങ്ങാടിയത്തിന്റെ നടപടി കള്ക്ക് യാതൊരു നീതീകരണവുമില്ലെന്നും, അടുത്ത മെത്രാന് സിനഡില് ഇതിനെപ്പറ്റി ചോദ്യങ്ങള് ഉയരുമെന്നും മാര് ബോസ്കോ ഫാ. സജിക്ക് വാക്ക് കൊടുത്തു.
അങ്ങാടിയത്ത് നോവിപ്പിച്ചു നാടുകടത്തിയ ഫാ. സജി അദ്ദേഹത്തിന് അപാരമായ ഒരു പാരയായിരിക്കും എന്തിനു സംശയമില്ല. "ലങ്കാദഹനം" കഥ ഓര്മ്മ വരുന്നു. സീതയുടെ മോച നത്തിനായി രാവണനുമായി ചര്ച്ചക്കുപോയ ഹനുമാന് . തന്റെ വാലിനു നീളം കൂട്ടിക്കൂട്ടി, ചുരുട്ടി രാവണന്റെ സിംഹാസനത്തെക്കാള് പൊക്കത്തില് ഉയര്ത്തി ഹനുവാന് ആസനസ്ഥനായി. ഈ കുരങ്ങന്റെ അധികപ്രസംഗത്തില് കുപിതനായ രാവണന് ഹനുമാന്റെ വാലില് എണ്ണയില് മുക്കിയ തുണി ചുറ്റി തീ കൊടുക്കാന് ആജ്ഞാപിച്ചു. ഹനുമാനാകട്ടെ തന്റെ തീ പിടിച്ച വാലുകൊണ്ട് രാവണന്റെ കൊട്ടാരമാകെ ചാടി നടന്നും, ലങ്കയാകെ ഓടി നടന്നു കത്തിച്ച്ചമ്പലാക്കി.
"അങ്ങടിയത്തുരാവണന്റെ" കിങ്കര വാഴ്ചക്ക് "ഹനുമാന്സജി" യച്ചനായി അന്ത്യം വരുത്തി സഭാ മാതാവായ സീതയെ രക്ഷിക്കണമേന്നായിരിക്കും ദൈവഹിതം!
114 comments:
Hope the Synad would take a Decision to REMOVE Angady. That way SMC in USA can get moral boost, new energy, Prosper with Unity. Hope the Bishops can see through the games and tricks played by the Chicago Gang. There is pressing need for immediate action before SMC loose a generation of loyal faithfuls in USA. It should not be looked as a Texas issue. As we realise, there are major heart burns in Chicago, Philadelphia, Los Angeles, Arizona, Florida etc. Hope we can trust Cardinal Vithayathil and other Bishops to take to take Wise & Right Decisions
This is in response to Post # 41. There is a saying that exception ALWAYS proves the statement. Coming to the former president of India, he was there not entirely because of his caliber but mainly because of the quota system. Once even a high official at the dioceses of Chicago mentioned to me, that the problems we see in our churches are due to the semi-illusioned, poorly educated men trying to gain social recognition (mostly husbands of health care workers who are often neglected and subjugated at home) at the church. The general lack of quality and decency in the community, because of social upbringing is a reality my friend and it even reflects in the quality of the clergy that are coming now. Bullock cart owners, last grade servants and tea shop owners have their own culture in their family. A ticket to US and a used Lexus do not bring attitude change, be it Saji Achen or anyone else. Tell me my friend why the well educated professionals keep away from this crowd??
George
The Claver/Veil story should come to an end by this synod in august. We coppell people are not going to allow claver/veil in our church at any cost.
Chicago/Philadelphia parishners,
This is your chance to remove the veil from your alter. If there is over 50% majority, then as per synod rules the veil should not be imposed in that church. So start collecting signatures of your parishners and sent it to all the bishops under syro malabar rite. It should be gone from our churches in america by this August.
Beginning of the End.
Seems like, Bishop will have to answer questions to Syro Malabar catholic Synod, especially why he fired Fr. Saji from Coppell church within two weeks of it's inauguration blessing ceremonies.
By refusing to obey the decision of earlier Synod, " Do not enforce Claver and Cheela" if parishioners don't like it, Bishop has been manipulating to enforce his agenda of installing Claver and Cheela in every church.
That is why he has been trying hard to make it look like Fr. Saji has done financial fraud, to avoid or not to admit the firing of Fr. Saji was due to Crucifix issue.
By the way, Bishop by saying "he is not against Crucifix" shows what our Bishop wants.
If anything happens good, its good for everyone,otherwise its bad for Syro-Malabar in USA.Syro will turn into real zero.Mar.Bishop move every Priests except Chicago."WHY"? is he scared of Thuddan? Answer is "NO".Then why he is still here?.Very simple,most of Bishop house income comes from Chicago thats true and transparent, nothing wrong with it.But there is non transparent income going to Bishop house from Chicago.Thuddan support that thats why he is still here.if any other priest come to Chicago they wont give Chicago Church money to Bishop house to pay their mortgage and all,then Bishop house will go bankrupt,thats the reason He still here after 10Years.In return Bishop house cover all Thuddan's illegal activities including sexual scandals.But faithfuls going to know the truth soon, in fact some of them already know it and it has reflected the church income.some people don't even know that the building on St.Charles Rd. bought for $760,000.00 dollar and sell it for $275,000 minus $100,000 paid legal fees, Taxes and brokerage.In fact it sell for $175,000 as some one mentioned on the Blog before.Net loss $585,000. Who's money is that? Our faithfuls money mostly Chicago's.People just started to realize that.When every one become aware of it reaction will be very bad beyond any one can even imagine.Bishop house itself is not different from big loss.They bought it for 2.2 million dollars when experts told them its not good for that price including many faithfuls.They did't listen to any one except some looters who get commission.(some of them get Cancer may its a punishment from real Lord).Any way toady it may be worth if we lucky $800,000.Net loss 1.4 Million dollars.Who's money is this?.Faithfuls mostly Chicago's.Dear Bishop and looters we support you and give money thinking that you will use it wisely,but you proof that you don't know how to manage and no commitments to faithfuls who's hard earned money you have waisted.if there is a real GOD he wont forgive you and will be punished while you are on this Earth.When you waist your money its ok,but when you waist faithfuls money its a mortal sin which has no pardon.Just remember that and again if you put finger in the mouth "any dog will bite".one request to Jesus youth and all prayer groups,you all praying hard for the world but its the time to pray for these Bishops so that our community will be saved from all evils.goonapadam "alpanue artham kittumpol artharathriyil kuda pidikum"some one throw a hat on the air and it fall on the head of a useless Achen and becomes a Bishop,and he act like a fool not knowing what to do.Eg;,1) when he become Bishop he had Gold cross and chain when every Bishop got silver.2) He sit in the altar and preach when every Bishop stand and preach for hours including 89 years old Mar.Varkey Vithayathil.3) When every bishop preach you get a message,when our Bishop preach you buy allergy pills. I don't think any one in the world criticizes Bishop's like ours.when one say you are wrong,you may not be he may be wrong.when 2 says you wrong may be you not wrong those 2 may be wrong.when 3 says you are wrong you may not be wrong they 3 may be wrong.But when more and more people says you are wrong,then you need to sit and think why they say am wrong,is anything really wrong with me and how can I correct it?.Thats what usually people do.I hope our Bishop do same thing.
Well done Fr.Saji Chakkittamuriyil..
We are really proud of you and your parents..
Our beloved SMC Bishop's in Kerala should address the below burning issues urgently..
1.Corruption in Chicago Bishop house.
2. forciful implementation of claver and sheela with the hidden agenda to divide & rule.
3.Harrasement and mental tourchering done to Fr.Saji
4.Freezing Coppell Church's Bank accounts without any justification.
Let a team of our Bishop from Kerala should investigate and give the report to curia and discuss in the next synod and save SMC in America.
We need Fr. Saji come back to USA as BISHOP of the south region of USA after the synod. We need one more Bishop in the united states syro malabar catholics from North part of Kerala viz.EKM, TRISSUR, THAMARASSERY
#5 Its Definitely FISHY !! How can a priest continue in the same parish for 10 years, especially when SMC has over 50 priests in USA. Angady's has something to hide & Cover UP .
#2 You are right on the money! Good job. The priests who are here are not any better!!
Poster #2,
Are you the so called Dr. George Mathew ? Didn't you get enough. Why are you keep asking for more? you are just like Bishop ? please answer the below
1. what is the meaning of "the well educated professionals" ?
2. would you explain the meaning of "culture of the family "?
3. According to your post, if I am "well educated "professional" and my parents are "Bullock cart owners", then what am I ?
4. Are you totally confused ?
5. What abt Pres. Obama ? could you explain the connection b/w his family culture and professional degree ?
Reply to #2
Sir,DR. having a DR. in front our name is not sign of dignity.I myself have 2 DR.but I think am the least one in the community.I know my friends many Doctors go to Bishop house and ask them not to do these community divide rule,but they don't listen to any one.We all want to see united community.They know our wife's are very much trusted in God.Thats their strong point. So you all need to educate your wife about these wrong doing of Bishop and teach them about real God.Then they will turn against Church and things get worse and resolve issues.
Response to post#2, Hi Mr.George,U are a fool.I am sure that U are worried about the health care workers since they make $$$$$$$$.Don't be a fool to think that their husbands are uneducated & jobless.Shut up gentleman,I am sure that your wife is jobless.Imagine if U loose your job........
Dear George:
Are u son of a bullock cart man too, we all know your parents are. not also from a well to do family in India, and u are a seminary reject.
About Using a used Lexus: Is that why you tried to buy used Washing machine, Dryer and Fridge to Fr. Saji? like this money is coming from your personal bank account.
Vattan Thoma, why are u keep writing in this blog AGAIN AND AGAIN WITH DIFFERENT USER NAMES?
Stop srewing the church community,
Take Oath Again & Again !!!!!!!!
What in the world is wrong with our Bishop??????
Parish council and Parish Kikarans are here to protect this parish wish and desires of the General Body, not to enforce Bishop’s agenda of Claver and Cheela here.
How can Bishop ask parish council members and Kikarans, to take oath again, that they will obey Bishop whatever he asks them to do?
Is he out of his mind?
Keep giving money and don’t ask questions, just like slavery where slave had no rights.
It is time for Zero Malabar Diocese Slavery of the parishioners to end forever.
Is going back to slavery, Thoma and Bishop maama pani gang wants us to do? They are willing to do anything (s@ckers) for Bishop for pooosition by nomination power of Bishooop.
Bishop cannot ask people to take oath about obeying whatever he says, it is illegal and against our rights as the citizens of USA.
Bishop needs to know where and when he is living?
Bishop act like a fool not knowing what to do.
1) when he become Bishop he had Gold cross and chain when every Bishop got silver.
2) He sit in the altar and preach when every Bishop stand and preach for hours including 89 years old Mar.Varkey Vithayathil.
3) When every bishop preach you get a message,when our Bishop preach you buy allergy pills.
Bishoooop listen carefully.....
If when one say you are wrong,Bishop may not be and that One may be wrong.
when 2 says you wrong, may be Bishop not wrong, those 2 may be wrong.
when 3 says you are wrong, Bishop may not be wrong, they 3 may be wrong.
But when more and more people says you are wrong,then you need to sit and think why they say I am wrong,is anything really wrong with me and how can I correct it?.
That is what usually people do.
I hope our Bishop do same thing.
Please Forget about stupid Claver, Cheela and start thinking about faithful of your Dioceses.
#9, 10 and 11 Posts. Someone is asking what is the meaning of "well educated professionals"? That is the problem with you; you can't even understand what well educated professional mean. What a pity! Then some one else is telling that a physician can loose the job, good for your understanding of the physicians world too. Tell me one thing, how many of you making tall statements and insulting the bishop has either a professional degree (not a diploma after grade ten in Kerala) or come from a known family back home? For your information no one prefixes their name with 2 Drs. what kind of Dr. are you sir? Come up with a list and stop shadow boxing.
Who is this Dr.George Mathew ?
Seems to be a public nuisance..
His sole intetion is to deviate readers attention from the core issue ,like corruption,malpractice in Chicago. etc....
Readers..please ignore this guy for ever..that will be the best medicine to this DOCTER
Transferring of priests within 3 years by the before set guide line.
Bishop, is he scared of Thuddan?
Most of Bishop's house income comes from Chicago that is true and transparent, nothing wrong with it.
But there is non transparent income going to Bishop's house from Chicago.
Thuddan support that, that is why he is still here.
if any other priest come to Chicago they wont give Chicago Church money to Bishop's house to pay their mortgage and all,then Bishop house will go bankrupt,that is the reason He is still here after 10 Years.
In return Bishop house covers/hide all Thuddan's illegal activities including sexual scandals.
But faithfuls going to know the truth soon, in fact some of them already know it and it has reflected in the church income.
Guys, let us note to move away from the core subject. I gonore the doctor who intentionally trying to steal the subject.
All parishoners in Chicago, Philadelphia, Garland, LAX, Orange County, Florida Syro Malabar Churches; 1) Start collecting signatures against claver and Veil. If over 50% paroshners are against claver and veil, then as per synod rule bishop should not impose claver and veil in your churches.
2) prepare memo against the corruption at your churches and in diocease with all the details you can.
3) draft and sent a letter with signatures to all catholic bishops, pop, and nuntio.
4) If this moves before synod, that will have some impact.
Let us work together to stop all the corruption and arrogance by our bishop in chicago.
Start having signature colection against the Claver and Veil at each one of your paish
http://syromalabarvoice.blogspot.com/2008/12/letter-to-editor.html
Dear Dr. Mar Bishop Angady,
Go back to India, we don't want you here anymore! You were once a good priest, but then became the Bishop from hell. We the TRUE faithfuls of Syro Malabar USA do not need you dictating us anymore. When you do leave take all your "loyal, lying, fraud" followers with you, then there will be peace in all syro churches in America.
Sincerely
A loyal supporter of Fr. Saji
At least one person had the courage to describe the community and the reasons for the problems associated with this community even though it may not be politically correct. One time a priest holding a very high post from your dioceses came to my house and told me the same thing in a more direct way. It is unfortunate that we see this polarization between the well educated and the not so well educated.
Mathew
George (#2)
If you have such an attittude towards hospital workers, why did you choose to become a doctor ? Only for $$$$$$$$. After all you also work in a dirty hospital -- mental george.
Reply to 19 & 20
Manda Siromanikale:
Who are you all fighting with, the Bishop. You all will end up only in spending your time, energy and money. I will suggest all you to take a deep breath and look around and just go on with your life.
Why are we doing all this stupid things. When we came to America, had anyone wanted to follow Syro Malabar tradition or thought that it would be possible to go and attend a malayalam service. I do not think so. All this was made possible to us by few priests and ofcourse our Bishop.
Nammulu killa pattikalle pole kadi pidikua americayil, angu naatil Bishopmar ellam koodi nammule nooki cherikkunnu.
I hope you all have known what happened at St. Charles Borromeo Catholic Church on Oklahoma.
Churchgoers are outraged over a crucifix in a Catholic church that they say shows an image of genitalia on Jesus.
Churchgoers are outraged over a crucifix in a Catholic church that they say shows an image of genitalia on Jesus.
Read More at:
http://newsok.com/warr-acres-catholic-church-has-crucifix-some-say-shows-exposed-genitals-of-jesus/article/3453833?custom_click=rss#ixzz0n5Vqfl8O
Is this what you say we are catholics, . If you are really concerned with Crucifix, I would say, we all should stand and send a petition to Pope because it is truly against what Crucifix stands for.
I hope you will post this comment
അനുസരണമാണ് സന്ന്യാസത്തിന്റെ അടയാളങ്ങളില് ഒന്ന്. ഇഷ്ടം നിറവേറ്റലാണ് അനുസരണം. പിതാവിന്റെ ഇഷ്ടം നിറവേറ്റിയാണ് ഈശോ അനുസരണം കാട്ടിയത്. ( യോഹ: 4,34). അനുസരണക്കേട് കാട്ടാത്ത കര്ത്താവാണ് പൂര്ണ്ണനായ സന്ന്യാസി. അനുസരണം പ്രാപിച്ച് സന്ന്യാസിയായവളാണ് മര്ത്ത മറിയം. ദൈവേഷ്ടം നിറവേറ്റാന് മറിയം അനുസരണത്തിന്റെ വഴിയേ നടന്നു.(ലൂക്കാ:1,38). ഈശോയുടെ ഇഷ്ടം നടപ്പിലാക്കലായിരുന്നു ശ്ലീഹന്മാരുടെ അനുസരണം. നിങ്ങള് ലോകമെങ്ങും പോവുക (മര്ക്കോ:16,15), സുവിശേഷം പ്രസംഗിക്കുക(മര്ക്കോ:16,15), ഇതെന്റെ ഓര്മ്മയ്കായ് ചെയ്യുക(ലൂക്കാ: 22,19), സ്നേഹിക്കുക(യോഹ:13,34) തുടങ്ങിയ ഇഷ്ടങ്ങള് പാലിച്ച ശ്ലീഹന്മാരും സന്ന്യാസികളാണ്.
സന്ന്യാസ ജീവിതം നയിച്ച സ്നാപക യോഹന്നാന്, ഈശോയെ ലോകത്തിന് വെളിപ്പെടുത്തിയാണ് പിതാവിനെ അനുസരിച്ചത്.(യോഹ:1,19-34; 3,22). പഴയനിയമ വിശുദ്ധന്മാരും മരുഭൂമിയിലെ സന്ന്യാസവര്യന്മാരും സഭാപിതാക്കന്മാരും ദൈവത്തിന്റെ (സഭയുടെ) ഇഷ്ടം നിറവേറ്റി അനുസരണത്തിന്റെ പാഠങ്ങള് പകര്ന്നവരാണ്. അതുപോലെ ഇഷ്ടം നിറവേറ്റലില്നിന്ന് അഥവാ അനുസരണത്തില് നിന്ന് വ്യതിചലിക്കുമ്പോള് തിരസ്കൃതരാവുന്ന വ്യക്തികളേയും (ഉദാ:സാവൂള്, സാംസണ് മുതലായവര്)സമൂഹത്തേയും(ഇസ്രായേല്) പഴയനിയമത്തില് കാണാം.
സഭയില് ഒരു സന്ന്യാസിക്ക് അനുസരണം എന്ന വ്രതം സഭയുടെ ഇഷ്ടം നിറവേറ്റലാണ്. തന്റെ ഇഷ്ടം മുഴുവന് മാറ്റിവച്ച് സഭയുടെ ഇഷ്ടമെന്ന മഹത്തായ ലക്ഷ്യത്തിനുവേണ്ടി മാത്രം ജീവിക്കുന്നവനാണ് യഥാര്ത്ഥ സന്ന്യാസി അഥവാ സന്ന്യാസിനി. അവന്/അവള്ക്ക് അനുസരണമെന്ന വ്രതം സഭയുടെ ഇഷ്ടത്തിന്റെ നിറവേറ്റല് മാത്രമാണ്.
അനുസരണകേട് ഇഷ്ടക്കേടാണ്. അനുസരണത്തില് അഥവാ ഇഷ്ടം നിറവേറ്റലില് വെള്ളം ചേര്ക്കപ്പെടുമ്പോള് സന്ന്യാസ ചൈതന്യത്തില് വെള്ളം ചേര്ക്കപ്പെടുന്നു. സഭയുടെ ഇഷ്ടത്തില് നിന്ന് സ്വന്തം ഇഷ്ടത്തിലേയ്ക്ക് മാറുമ്പോള് സന്ന്യാസി സന്ന്യാസിയല്ലാതാവുന്നു.
സൂനഹദോസ് തീരുമാനങ്ങള് സ്വന്തം ഇഷ്ട നിര്വ്വഹണത്തിന് ഹാനികരമാകുമെന്ന് കാണുമ്പോള് അത് തിരസ്ക്കരിക്കുന്ന പുരോഹിതന്മാരും എങ്ങനെ സന്ന്യാസ ചൈതന്യമുള്ളവരാകും?
സ്വന്തം പ്രസ്ഥാനത്തിന്റെയും അഭ്യുദയകാംക്ഷികളുടെയും ഭൗതികഭാവിയുടെ സുരക്ഷിതത്ത്വത്തിനായി സഭയൂടെ ഇഷ്ടങ്ങള് മൂടി വയ്ക്കുകയും അവഗണിക്കുകയും ഹനിക്കുകയും ചെയ്യുന്ന സന്ന്യാസ നാമധാരികള് അനുസരണമെന്നപുണ്യത്തിന്റെ പാലകരാകുന്നതെങ്ങിനെ?
ദൈവജ്ഞാനമായ അറിവ് ലാഭേച്ഛകളില്ലാതെ കൈമാറേണ്ട സന്ന്യാസി, തന്റെ സമൂഹത്തേയും പ്രസ്ഥാനത്തേയും കച്ചവടത്തിന്റെ വിലപേശലിലേയ്ക്ക് വലിച്ചിഴയ്ക്കുമ്പോള് മറയ്ക്കപ്പെടുന്നത് "മരണം വരെ സഭയുടെ ഇഷ്ടം പാലിച്ചുകൊള്ളാം" എന്ന ഉറപ്പിന്റെ ലംഘനമല്ലേ?
സന്ന്യാസത്തെ ഇഷ്ടപ്പെടുന്നവരാകട്ടെ സന്ന്യാസികള്. വര്ഷത്തില് ഒരിക്കല് മാത്രം പുതുക്കപ്പെടുന്ന വ്രതം മാത്രമായി കുറയാതിരിക്കട്ടെ അനുസരണം. ചൈതന്യമുള്ളവരാകട്ടെ സന്ന്യാസികള്. സന്ന്യാസമുണ്ടാകട്ടെ സഭയില്.
Poster #16,
How come you didn't answer the rest of the questions in post #10?
Conveniently you missed all that ?
I think poster #10 was asking the meaning of the terms you mentioned in your dictionary.We all know what is professional degree since most of us are the same. Yea, you are public nuisance. I should have let you go.But since you asked this question I am here again.
"For your information no one prefixes their name with 2 Drs. what kind of Dr. are you sir? Come up with a list and stop shadow boxing."
Go here and try to find the difference b/w you and him . good luck. http://www.stthomassyromalabar.com/index.html
George the DOC,
If you are getting paid $$$$$$$$, it is because many people are not willing to do the shitty and horribly scheduled work in hospitals. After all you are just a DOC who follows protocols to handle shit at hospitals, not a brainy entrepreneur or CEO. LOL.
Hello Voice,
Is there any issue for posting the below numbers in your site other than in a comment?
If not please post them in your site. Thanks.
KERALA CATHOLIC BISHOPS' COUNCIL (KCBC)
Secretariat, Pastoral Orientation Centre
P.B. No. 2251, Palarivattom, Kochi - 682 025, Kerala, India
Telephone : +91 484 - 2805722, 2805815
Fax : +91 484 - 2806214
Email : kcbc@kcbcsite.com
The Syro-Malabar Major Archiepiscopal Curia
Mount St Thomas, P.B. No. 3110, Kakkanad P.O.,
Kochi 682 030, India
Tel. 0484-2424768, 2424780, 2425727, 2426235, 2426236,
Fax: 0484-2422727.
E-mail: majorarchbishop@gmail.com, majorarchbishop@hotmail.com
P B No. 2580, Broadway,
Ernakulam Kochi - 682 031, Kerala, India
Phone: (0484) 2352629, 2352906
Fax: (0484) 2355010,2366028
The Archdiocesan Curia
Major Archbishop’s House, Ernakulam, P.B.No. 2580, Kochi 682031, Kerala, INDIA.
Tel: 0484-2352629, 2352906, 2363664.
Fax: 0484-2366028, 2355010
Email: curia@ernakulamarchdiocese.org
Coppell churchinu vendi Chicago visit cheyth Ponnada veeranmar Kakkanattu visit cheyyunnundo???
DR George,
You seem to be so conceded with your doctor degree THAT YOUR DADDY PAID FOR.
You also seem to have something against BULLOCK CART OWNERS.There has to be a reason for that.When your daddy was busy making money to pay DoNATIONS for your MEDICAL SCHOOL ADMISSION,YOUR MAMA WAS BUSY WITH A BULLOCK CART OWNER.You must be SO confused about your identity that your inner conscience has so much HATRED TOWARDS BULLOCK CART OWNERS.DON'T WORRY YOU ARE NOT ALONE,AN ENTIRE SECT OF SYROMALABAR CATHOLICS ARE HAVING AN IDENTITY CRISIS ALSO.
I am not going to hold this against you.It is not your fault.It is quiet natural for you to feel this way.
It is not your daddy's fault either because it was his longing desire to make you a DOCTOR and he would do it at any cost.
It is not your mama's fault because your daddy was never around.
So don't spend too much time at the HOSPITAL while your WIFE IS HOME ALONE.KEEP AN EYE on your mail man.
I am not blaming you for having these STRONG FEELINGS AGAINST BULLOCK CART OWNERS.It is an involuntary response of your inner conscience because of your childhood TRAUMAS.
OH, I think your wife is coming..I will let you get off the computer BEFORE SHE BEATS YOU UP for spending time on the internet.
Evil Person wrote Reply to 19 & 20
Eda Manda Siromani:
I really pray to Jesus, that Jesus will take away your eyesight, for seeing crucifix with your dirty mind.
That will be the right punishment you and your family deserves.
Answer to post #2
I think there is some fact in that.I seen it once.I was in a get together and I seen wife of a Kaikaran insult him in public.His wife is helthcare student.She was throwing her kids to him and shouting him in public saying that "pallikyu vendi nadanno.pillere venongil nokkikko.enikyonnum samayamilla".She was very rude to him in many insidents like this.
He act always like an educated man.Still he show his low grade stand by trying to add his utility bill in church.
Bullok cart or Lexus or Benz or Corrola or honda or Nisaan....
It is upto them.If you have capacity you buy it.Otherwise you go and f---- yourself.Thats all.If you cry about it then there is no use.
We have more example like this.We will publish it when the time comes.
Ladies and gentlemen,
(sorry ,i don't think any of the ladies will write a blog here...they must be busy of making money to feed the uneducated, uncultured sons and grandchildren of bullock cart owners by doing double shift in hospitals).. but anyway let us come to the point. i personally appreciate those healthcare workers because
1. they are not part of the unhealthy washing of dirt in this blog site that has been going on for many months. i totally support (Dr.?) George in that matter
2.because of their hard work, the sons and grandchildren of bullock cart owners and teashop owners get food, shelter and acquired diginity in this country.
3.because of the help they are giving to their parents back home, the bullock carts and the teashops are still running. ( a small amount of money ,they may be putting aside or the large amount of money their husbands, the sons of bullock cart owners stealing from the bank account, without the knowledge of the healthcare workers.)
now, coming to the point...(Dr.?)george said a truth here. all of a sudden ,why everybody started bashing him? so whoever got offended by his comment (the truth) are sons of bullock and teashop owners in reality? leave that gentleman. alone,please! "whoever says the truth will be crucified"
Eg: Jesus, Fr. Saji, and many more.(could be the hierachy in chicago too...who knows?)
i know you guys will come after me. but the advantage on my side is ,i am anonymous and i am well educated..but i don't have a Dr. degree and my father is not a bullockcart or teashop owner. my wife is not a health care worker either, but she is well educated too..
One person used his family culture and street values to cover the ugly truth. It is possible that like the rest of the pack he is mail man doing what he had described and his wife doing the same. If he got offended by the bullock cart analogy then there are reasons for that, that is your fault and I was aiming at you. Only persons born out of illegitimate relationships accuse others of the same, which is the complex. Need psychiatric help.
Some well educated high school graduate from back home, proclaimed that physicians just follow the protocol and is not the CEO. In your circle you only know CEO right?, may be you did not have the skills to check out the entry requirements for medicine in this country. If you guys have no education just accept that, that is the fact. Or come up with a list of person with advanced or professional degrees. Let us face the facts.
By the bye I have a name and my name is George, not someone who hides in anonymous cover.
Good Comment to Re-post
"Dear friend, what is the difference between you and the people you keep away from? Is it really the books you have memorized? Is it the exams you passed? Is it the amount of money you have in your bank account?
Education is not just for the brain. Is is for the soul too. If earning a degree or two makes you think you are superior to your fellow human beings, then your education degraded you instead of improving you.
Education makes people more humble, except people of vanity.
Not having a degree doesn't make anyone less human.
If your coat makes you despise others, lose your coat.
If your education makes you despise others, go teach the under priviledged.
If your money makes you despise others, go volunteer at a soup kitchen.
If your good health makes you despise others, go volunteer at a hospital.
If your family name makes you despise others, go eat dinner with them.
Because we are all God's children."
Be it the higher ups or the lower lows in the World :-)
Thoma, Reji and rest of betrayers of Coppell:
We know why you guys did this, it is not your fault.. may be this is something you inherited from your family-- വിത്തു ഗുണം പത്തു ഗുണം-- വിത്തില് പിഴച്ചാല് വിളവില് പിഴക്കും!
Bullock (Ampalakaala) kids......... position seekers ... Bishop's ass kissers ...Seminary rejects.... Bas@ards,,,,,,
George the DOC,
I guess you are saying "എന്റെ അപ്പന് ആന ഉണ്ടായിരുന്നു" (My father had elephant)
Why did you choose to come to USA rather than sit on the elephant? - as they say it must be a കുഴി ആന. - Same with your fraud degree.
Regardless of what Georgie, Thommie, or whomever says, facts stay the same. Bishop fired Fr. Saji for installing crucifix on the altar. Whether George was born in a bullock cart or on the road side, Syro diocese can't erase the lies they have made up to tar Fr. Saji.
Chicago diocese is thinking, may be Georgie boy can talk the false allegations at Fr. Saji into dust. But the diocese head is going to get an earfull very soon. Now they are realizing that they made a big doo doo, and sent out georgie with some pampers wipes. Georgie, you are in the wrong place. You should go to Chicago diocese castle to do the wiping. They are the ones who made the doo doo.
So Bishop obery Cardinal?
Where is the fax Cardinal sent to Bishop?
In that Cardinal clearly asked Bishop not to install Clavar cross if there is no unanimous aproval for it.
Bishop,Be a man.Accept the reality.
Bishop:::Does he believe in Jesus?
സഭയില് ഒരു Bishopന്റെ അനുസരണം എന്ന വ്രതം സഭയുടെ ഇഷ്ടം നിറവേറ്റലാണ്.
തന്റെ ഇഷ്ടം മുഴുവന് മാറ്റിവച്ച് സഭയുടെ ഇഷ്ടമെന്ന മഹത്തായ ലക്ഷ്യത്തിനുവേണ്ടി മാത്രം ജീവിക്കേണ്ടവനാണ് യഥാര്ത്ഥ Bishop അഥവാ our garland old Abortion supporting Angadi.
അവന് അനുസരണമെന്ന വ്രതം സഭയുടെ ഇഷ്ടത്തിന്റെ നിറവേറ്റല് മാത്രമാണ്, but what is he doing now.
അനുസരണകേട് ഇഷ്ടക്കേടാണ്. അനുസരണത്തില് അഥവാ ഇഷ്ടം നിറവേറ്റലില് വെള്ളം ചേര്ക്കപ്പെടുമ്പോള് Bishopന്റെ ചൈതന്യത്തില് വെള്ളം ചേര്ക്കപ്പെടുന്നു.
സഭയുടെ ഇഷ്ടത്തില് നിന്ന് സ്വന്തം ഇഷ്ടത്തിലേയ്ക്ക് മാറുമ്പോള് Bishop സന്ന്യാസിയല്ലാതാവുന്നു.
സൂനഹദോസ് തീരുമാനങ്ങള് സ്വന്തം ഇഷ്ട നിര്വ്വഹണത്തിന് ഹാനികരമാകുമെന്ന് കാണുമ്പോള് അത് തിരസ്ക്കരിക്കുന്ന Bishopന്മാരും എങ്ങനെ സന്ന്യാസ ചൈതന്യമുള്ളവരാകും?
ദൈവജ്ഞാനമായ അറിവ് ലാഭേച്ഛകളില്ലാതെ കൈമാറേണ്ട Bishop, തന്റെ സമൂഹത്തേയും പ്രസ്ഥാനത്തേയും കച്ചവടത്തിന്റെ വിലപേശലിലേയ്ക്ക് വലിച്ചിഴയ്ക്കുമ്പോള് മറയ്ക്കപ്പെടുന്നത് "മരണം വരെ സഭയുടെ ഇഷ്ടം പാലിച്ചുകൊള്ളാം" എന്ന ഉറപ്പിന്റെ ലംഘനമല്ലേ?
A QUESTION,
THIS VATTAN AND POTTAN ARE NOT KAIKARAN NOW.WHY THEY MAKE COFFE EVERY SUNDAY?
WHY THEY STAND NEAR VINOD ACHAN AND ACT LIKE THEY ARE HIS PETS?
WHY THEY ACT LIKE THEY ARE RUNNING THIS CHURCH.ARE THEY TRYING TO SHOW CHICAGO THAT THEY ARE WITH THEM?
HEY VATTA AND POTTA,
DONT YOU KNOW THE POLITICKS?
BISHOP AND HIS TEAM PAYED YOU BACK FOR WHAT YOU DONE TO BISHOP.DID YOU GET THE POINT?
THINK THINK THINK.
TIME WILL TELL YOU.THEY WILL WASH THR HANDS SOON.BETTER UNDERSTAND BEFORE YOU GUYS LOOSE THEM TOO.
the disussion here now is deviated to george mania.some people supporting and others bashing the so called george and then, george exclaims, "i have a name and that is george". who the hell are you? there are two million george's in this world
Reji,2Thomas and rest of betrayers of Coppell
നിങ്ങള് അടുത്ത ജന്മത്തില് പട്ടികളായായി ജനിക്കും എന്ന് കരുതി ഇപ്പോള് തന്നെ Bishopinte തീട്ടം തിന്നാന് തുടങ്ങണോ?
Dear Bishop,
At least now do you see how you ended up in the troubles you are in? Do you see how your advisors like George (the bullok-cart owner's son) feel about the rest of the kerala catholics in this country? Is that the people you want to listen to?
My wife always complaining my name is printed only on our wedding invitation and on our check book since I married her ten years ago. Last year I decided to run for the parish council election and won (only a handful of people participated in the unit meeting and as we planned, my friend proposed my name). Now my NAME & PICTURE is on our church web site and also my name printed on church bulletin (thanks acha). My wife and kids are very happy and proud of me and she told me I have to buy a suit. My wife advised me if I keep quiet during the parish council meeting, achan will nominate me as next kaikkaran (one of my dream since we moved from Middle East few years ago). But the sad thing is last week I had an argument with my wife and she called me "MOOKKILLA RAJYATHU MURIMOOKKAN RAJAVU", like parish council/pothuyogam meeting I kept quiet. MAUNAM VIDUVANU BHUSHANAM !
Thanks
Ex-Middle Eastern from Phoenix
IS Fr. VINOD'S fish market open this weekend too? When we buy fish," is the "KAPPA" free?CHICAGO fish could be as good as "NADAN
THOTTU MEEN"
"vATTU KAPPA AND THOTTU MEEN" BESTcombination for week end with couple of "smalls"
Blogger,
Please open another blog for the dr.george issue. Our goal of this blog is to stop corruption in Chicago Diocese and remove claver and veil. Let us discuss about that part only here in this blog. We need to initiate the process at all Syro churches in usa, including chicago, garland, florida, philadelphia, against the veil and claver. What can be done for that? This is the best time since synod is coming and now that all bishops know our real problems in america.
Most people don't even know that the building on St.Charles Rd. bought for $760,000.00 dollar and sell it for $275,000 minus $100,000 paid legal fees, Taxes and brokerage.In fact it sell for $175,000 as some one mentioned on the Blog before.Net loss $585,000. ie 77% LOSS !!!!!!!!!!!! Who's money is that? Our faithfuls money mostly Chicago's.People just started to realize that.When every one become aware of it reaction will be very bad beyond any one can even imagine.Bishop house itself is not different from big loss.They bought it for 2.2 million dollars when experts told them its not good for that price including many faithfuls.They did't listen to any one except some looters who get commission. Any way toady it may be worth if we lucky $800,000.Net loss 1.4 Million dollars.Who's money is this?.
This kind FInancial Mismanagement alone is a good enough to REMOVE this knucklehead Bishop
Please keep all liars away from the new achen including both thomas, reji, saju & family, saju, tamil lady & parents. These losers will cause more conflicts in our community.
Answer to an idiot DR.hey man how did you get your Dr.did you buy it from North India?.I have M.D. and Phd. in physiology is it call 2 DR.fool.dont think you the only one DR.ok Hey fool did you see any Uneducated Malayalee in US idiot.Sorry to call you Idiot but you are.You Kiss Bishop ass and their tail waivers don't tell us what to do.If i tell my family history you will be Challenged.I think you are mentally challenged.don't kill any patients,treat bishop and his tale wavers only.
Pls call following Bishops as well - Andrews Thazhathu, Mathew Moolakkattu, Dallas & Chicago Cardinals
Dr. George is a Fraud. He works in our Hospital. Forget him.
We are going to have a new beginning in Dallas on Sunday with Fr. Varghese. Hope he will implement POTHUYOGAM DECISIONS !!
Can we have that Tamil lady telephone call details again in malayalam?
It was good one.
***** LIAR BISHOOOOP *******
We the majority of Coppell parishioners know this much, you as Bishop has tried/been trying very deliberately, premeditated to tarnish a priest like Fr. Saji to sell your Powethil agenda of installing Claver in all churches under your Dioceses.
Thorappante photo kandu paperil.
poochakyu ponnurukkunnidathentha karyam?
Why he went to airport with kaikaran and vinothini achan?
money adi aaano?
May be vattan asked him to come to airport.
Or he is trying to come back to parish council through back door?
Why Thomachan write in this to call Bishops in India?
He often complain about this blog.
Eda kochu Kallaaaaaa...........
Nee aalu kollallo.............
Kasmalan..................
#53
VATTAN AND POTTAN WITH KALLU KUDIYAN UNDER THE GUIDENCE OF CHANATHALAYAN(his boy friend too involved in it) ASKED THE TAMIL LADY TO CALL CHITLAPILLY BISHOP.
SHE ACT LIKE SHE INVENTED THIS CHURCH.SHE OFTEN TELL EVERY ONE THAT
a) " I ALSO WORKED IN CORPORATIVE WORLD"
b) " ITHU STHYATHINTE ALMAVANO?"
c) " ARENGILUM POLISINE VILIKYUM"
GOT IT?
YES IT IS HER WHO CALLED CHITLAPILLY BISHOP
P--"PITHAVE... NJAN BISHOPINTE ORU RELEATIVE ANU"
B--"NJAN ARIYILLALLO INGANE ORU RELEATIVINE"
P--"ENTE PARENTS TRICHURKARANU,NJAN VALARNATHU MADRASILANU"
B--"OK.ENTHA VILICHE"
P--"BISHOPINU SUKAMANO?ENTHO ASUKAMANENNU KETTALLO"
B--"ENIKYU KOZHAPPAMONNUMILLA.ENTHA NINGALUDE PERU?"
P--"NJAN BISHOPINTE RELEATIVE ANU.PARANJA ARIYUMAYIRIKYUM"
B--"ENTHANU PERU?"
P--"MMMMMMM PERU........ MMMMM NJAN EE PALLIYUDE FORMATIONIL OTHIRI WORK CHEYTHITTUNDU...MMMMMM"
B--"ENTHA IPPO VILICHE?"
P--"MMMMM BISHOPINU SPONSERSHIP LETTER KITTIYO KADAAPPIL ACHAN AYACHA?"
B--"KITTI"
P--"ATHU KITTIYONNARIYAANA VILICHE.EE SAJI ACHAN....."
B--"SJAI ACHANENTHU PATTI?"
P--"ACHAN IVIDE OTHIRI GROUP UNDAKKI.EE PALLI NASIPPIKYUNNU...PINNE SAJI ACHANN....."
B--"SAJI ACHANE PATTI COMPLAINT PARAYANANO VILICHEE?"
P--"ACHAN EE IDAVAKA NASIPPIKYUNNU.ACHAN SPONSERSHIP LETTER KITTILLANNU VILICHU PARANJU"
B--IF YOU HAVE ANY COMPLAINTS ABOUT FR.SAJI THEN TALK TO HIM AND TALK TO HIS BISHOP IN CHICAGO.DONT CALL HERE TO COMPLAIN ABOUT HIM."
P--"YES YES PITHAVEE.BUT SAJI ACHAN IS MMM HUUU KLUUUU KLAAAAA"
B--"WHAT IS YOUR NAME?WHY YOU DONT TELL YOUR NAME?"
P--"MMMM ATHU....MMMMMM"
B--"GDIM(BISHOP DISCONNECT THE PHONE)
P--"AYYO PITHAVE................. HONE VECHO...... SSOOOOO NANAKEDAYI...
Note- the sponsership letter is handed over to Bishop to file visa last week of march when kaaduppan achan visited them.So that they wont get the time to get visa to come to Coppel to attend the Blessing of the church.
And you guys knows who is this lady is.So this is the game of this people.
Mr. George is POTTAN Regi
POST # 50.
OMG !!! OMG !!! Super.Now I am pretty sure that this guy has two doctorate degrees and he is well educated. What a beautiful language. Apost from from a well educated cultured man, LOL. " YOU KISS BISHOP ASS, I KISS FR. SAJI ASS". i CAN'T BELIEVE IT.
Phoenix Statistics:
Total Catholic families in Phoenix area 181
25% about 45 families are active in Syro Malabar church (only 25 families paying monthly contribution, no overtime pay nowadays)
15% about 27 are seminary jumpers (they born as Syro Malabar and converted to Latin when they joined seminary). They are confused now.
10% about 18, their spouse from different Kerala catholic rite, they are like kaiyal purathe thenga
The rest 50% about 91 families they don’t know their origin, their job is criticizing the priest and parish council (they go to English church and weekly contribution is $1)
Vattan Thomma, Pottan Reji Thorappan Sunny .....everybody is in the newspaper.....Warm welcome to the new priest.
We need malayalam phone conversation about that chitlappilly phone call.
That one is great.
Some one is can translate it to malayalam?or tamil?
Is it true tamil lady invented church?
or someone else findout it and asked her to go and talk to the pastor?
we heard that the story is like that.
ngaa mmmm llllll ngeeeee mmmmmmm
ayyo phone vacho pithaveeee
My name is jose and I am from Irving.Why one of this kaikaran try to canvas me alot?
He call me and try to justfy his wrong doings.
Please man,
I dont want to be in your gang.Go away.
We need to buy some more coat and suit for chana............
chuudathum nalla karuth suit idunna chanayudey mahamanaskathakyu munbil nammukku muttu madakkam............
he is only one in this coppell church have some crdibility.We have to make a statue of him and start noveena for chaana.
Chaanathalayan punyavaala.........
njangalku vendi prarthikyeenameee..
angayudeee bocken english ellareyum padippikyeenameee......
angayude kallatharangalll njangaleeyum padippikyenameeee.....
kanji dash moon chanathalayan........
poyi chakadoooo my.....eeee.
ninakkokke naarathan pani nirthikuudeee kalla panni....
da potta,
thanthakyu pirannathanengil george enna peril blogil ezhutharuthu.
naadakam nirthada utility kalla
Allayooo kalla kaaadipaa and vinothini,
it is not clavar cross and curtain,it is not chicago and angadiath.For us faith is a tradition what we are very well confident about it.
this is not Garland.
kanarom konnarom paranjondu ingoottu varandaaa.
this is coppell.
Fr. Varghese:
Watch out for these bas@ards:
Thorappan sunny -- wanted to become kikaran, didn't get that post, disqualified from parish cuncil for not showing up for parish council meeting many times because he did not get Kikaran post. Thorappan is coming to church every day now, to help thomas and reji...What is his thorapan plan to create problems in our church for "Garland church his own brothers"?
Vattan Thoma -- Seminary Reject ---Only concerned about family getting all positions in church, but seems confused always, even don't know who Jesus is? World malayalle association .. where ever he goes, thinking about being the number one position always.. How much he really contributed to our church ask Accountant and for copy of canceled check for proof>>>>>
Pottan Reji: -- Seminary Jumber,,,Thoma's kallu kudi gang member, rather would like to be called secretary for all organizations, hobby making lot of kids, clean shave, no mustache, why?, wife is still studying , wonder what she is studying now...more kids...
kallu Saju-- He is always under the influence of liqueur, then listens to vattan thoma's advise-- recently clean shave, because wife runs the house in all matters, can't blame her, alcohol addict can not make anyone happy.....one child...
Fiji -- so called founder of our church. paandy family-- so many family issues, maybe that is why she is making all this noise to deviate from her family problems. Even tried to call Fr. Saji's Bishop by the advice of Chanathalyan AV and the rest of Bishop's Ass kissers. Her husband also has no mustache, wonder why?
Sheela Shibu-- Want to see Cheela in our church, finally lost his cheela "that is his own job"....Is God rewarding people now right back for their actions? ---- vacationing in Kerala now..
Chenathalyan Av--- looking always for any kind of position. Syro Malabar Chicago Finance Committee member by nomination by Bishop-- now you know why he support Bishop always....
Thorappante photo kandu paperil.
poochakyu ponnurukkunnidathentha karyam?
Why he went to airport with kaikaran and vinothini achan?
money adi aaano?
He is the new coffe maker in our church, why no parish council....
May be vattan asked him to come to airport.
Or he is trying to come back to parish council through back door?
Does he like (back door)rear ended? Does Thoma has anything to do with this behavior?
Fr.Vinod,
Why you was asking money on last sunday when there is $100thousand in bank.Unfreez it and pay the bills.Then ask us to pay more.That time we will think about it.Got it Vinothachaaa?
Poor fellows. You are in fool's world. Do you think any single Bishop in Kerala will say a single word against Bishop Angadiathu. Even if our Bishop is absolutely wrong, it's not going to happen. Their policy is a priest should always obey and respect his Bishop.It doesn't matter, what the priest thinks. Suppose one of the Bishops supported Fr. Saji today, and a priest under that Bishop disobey or disrespect that Bishop tomorrow, then what will happen if Bisho Angadiathu and some other Bishops support that priest. The Bishops will never allow this type situation to happen. They will stay together in this case. So don't be so excited.
My name is jose and I am from Irving.
Why one of this old kaikaran try to canvas me a lot?
He call me and try to justfy his wrong doings.
Is it because I am the new auditor?, Is he trying to save his ass?, by looking in the dates of the new bank account opening and transfer of $25,000 from providence bank, I can catch him for all the back door dealing to tarnish Fr. Saji.
Please man,
I don't want to be in your gang, I am smart man.Go away.
Miami news""""""""""
Ladies are not going to Miami church.
Most of them are complaining about chest (breast) swelling due to kallan Zac's long long hard hard hugs to them.
Kallan Zac don't try to climb on all ladies man, you are a priest....
Poster #50
Hey Double Doctor,
Please make sure that, atleast a High School graduate has checked your comments (proof read) before it is posted
Reg Post # 19
As Post #19 says, this is exactly you need to do. In fact you need to send this memo explaining everything including the drama behind the firing of Fr. Saji with everybody's Signature to the president of CBCI (Cardinal Oswald Gracias of Mumbai)
http://www.cbcisite.com/cbci%20centre.htm
Most importantly, since Syro Malabar Chicago Diocese bishop is a member of United States Conference of Catholic Bishops http://www.usccb.org/directory.shtml#IL, the same need to be send to the president of USCCB (Francis Cardinal George of Archdiocese of Chicago is the Current President of USCCB)
http://usccb.org
The evil deeds of this bishop could be restrained only by Pope or USCCB or CBCI, provided you have solid proof of his dirty acts
Is there anything which keeps Thorappan too close to Vattan?
We need details about it.Why he is always supporting vattan in pothuyogam.
We will get the details............
വേണ്ട വേണ്ട എന്ന് വിചാരിച്ചിരിക്കുക ആയിരുന്നു. അപ്പോഴാണ് ഈ ബ്ലോഗ് സൈറ്റ് ദിനം പ്രതി ഒന്നിനൊന്നു രസകരമായിക്കൊണ്ടിരിക്കുന്നത്. അപ്പോള് എന്നെക്കൊണ്ട് നിങ്ങള് എഴുതിച്ചേ അടങ്ങുകയുള്ളൂ അല്ലേ?
എന്നാല് പ്രിയ ബ്ലോഗര്മാരെ നിങ്ങളുടെ അറിവിലേക്കായി ഒരു കാര്യം പറയട്ടെ. നിങ്ങള് ഈ പംക്തിയിലൂടെ വെറുതെ കിടന്നു കുരക്കുന്നതാണ്. അറിയാന് മേലെങ്കില് പറഞ്ഞു തരാം. പാലം കുലുങ്ങിയാലോം കേളന് കുലുങ്ങുകില്ല എന്ന് കേട്ടിട്ടുണ്ടോ?
പാലാ മെത്രാന്റെ മൂക്കിന് താഴെ ഇരുന്നാണ് ഓശാന എന്ന പ്രസിദ്ധീകരണത്തിലൂടെ ഒരു നവീകരണ വാദി ഒത്തിരി നാള് പട പൊരുതിയത്. എന്നിട്ട് എന്താകാന്? മെത്രാന്റെ മൂക്കിലെ ഒരു പൂട പോലും കൊഴിഞ്ഞില്ല. പിന്നെയാ ഇവിടത്തെ കളി!
മെത്രാനച്ചന് അടിയറവ് പറഞ്ഞില്ലെങ്കിലും (അത് നടക്കാന് പോകുന്നില്ല. നടന്നാല് പിന്നെ കത്തോലിക്കാ സഭയ്ക്ക് എന്തു നിലനില്പ്പ്? അതിന് വച്ച വെള്ളം അങ്ങ് വാങ്ങി വച്ചാല് മതി ) പല പല പുതിയ നാറ്റക്കേസുകളും വായിക്കാന് നല്ല രസമുണ്ട്. പിള്ളേരെ മടിയില് ഇരുത്തി ഇക്കിളി കൂട്ടുന്നവരും ഒരു വീട്ടില് പറയാതെ കേറി ചെല്ലുകയും പിന്നെ മാസ്റ്റര് ബെഡ് റൂമിന്റെ അറ്റാച്ചെട് ബാത് റൂം തന്നെ ഉപയോഗിക്കാന് കൃത്യ നിഷ്ഠ കാട്ടുകയും ,ഭര്ത്താവിന് ഡ്യൂട്ടി ഉള്ള പകല് സമയ നൈറ്റ് ഡ്യൂട്ടി കഴിഞ്ഞു വന്നു ക്ഷീണിച്ചു കിടന്നുറങ്ങുന്ന ഹെല്ത്ത് കെയര് വര്ക്കര്ക്ക് ഗ്രോസ്സറി കടയില് നിന്നും സിനിമ കാസറ്റുമായി വരികയും ഒക്കെ ചെയ്യുന്ന വീരന്മാരെ പറ്റിയും എല്ലാം വായിച്ചു. നമ്മുടെ സമൂഹത്തിന് ആദ്ധ്യാല്മികമായും സംസ്കാരികമായും ഒത്തിരി പുരോഗതി കിട്ടുന്നുണ്ട്.
ഇവിടെ നിന്നും അടിക്കടി നാട്ടില് സന്ദര്ശനത്തിന് പോകുന്ന വീരന്മാര് എന്തിനാണ് യൂറോപ്പില് , അതും ഒരു പ്രത്യേക രാജ്യത്ത് ഒരാഴ്ചയും മറ്റും തങ്ങുന്നത്? എന്തിനാണെന്ന് അറിയാമോ? വേണ്ട ഞാന് പറയില്ല. അത് പറഞ്ഞാല് ദൈവ ദോഷമാ. അവരും മനുഷ്യര് അല്ലേ?
കൂടുതല് കഥകളുമായി വീണ്ടും കാണും വരെയ്ക്കും നമസ്കാരം പറയുന്നു ,
അനോണിമസ് കുപ്പിക്കാപ്പസ്.
വിട്ടുപോയത് കൂടി കൂടിയാല് മൊത്തം പന്ത്രണ്ട് ! .
please see the Picture of Claver & Sheela people in Emalayalee.
ആരെയും അറിയിക്കാതെ പ്രമാണി ചമയാന് നോക്കിയാല്
എങ്ങനെ ഇരിക്കുംമെന്നു തോമക്ക് എപ്പോളും പിടിയില്ല.
പേപ്പറില് വാര്ത്ത ഇട്ടാല് കൈക്കാരന് അകുംമെന്നാണ് എപ്പോളും വിചാരം.
ക്ലാവേര് ഗ്രൂപ്പില് എത്ര പേര് ഉണ്ടെന്നും തെളിഞ്ഞു.
നാളെ ഇനി കള്ളം പറയരത്.
responseo#52
Mone dinesha you got enough training from thommachan already!!!!!!!!
great job
Reji pls dont waist your future
Have some more kids
respone to #33
Mone many of the soft hearted people still consider you as a fair person,but now you are revealing you more.Pls you open up more so these people will understand you better
try to write more
Hi Guys -
Try to be practical and STOP throwing mud at each other like Silly Cats and Dogs!!
The Blog Moderator needs to Moderate the Comments to the Point.
Do not forget the real issue with "Claver Cross and Sheela".
It looks like somebody is manipulating to steal the thunder and deviate from the real issue as in Politricks !!
And poor Cats and Dogs run after the Bone with no Meat only to find it later :-)..
Comon Guys stick to the point and be focussed .
Not only Pottan Thoma,Vattan Reji but also MANDABHUTHI JOSHY, MIKE/MEMORANDUM BABU,NONSENSE TOMY, KALLAN ACCOUNTANT,KALLAN BUSINESSMAN GEORGE,THORAPPAN SUNNY all were there to recieve achan
Dear Fr.Varghese Naikamparambil
AN OPEN LETTER TO YOU.
Hearty welcome to St.Alphonsa Parish, coppell.
This beautiful church and vibrant community is built up from scratches by none other than Fr.Saji Chakkitamuriyil.I am sure that you are aware of the very unfortunate events and brutal torturing done to Fr.Saji by Chicago just beacuase Fr.Saji stood for a good cause.
we noticed that the following person were always with Fr.Saji when he started his mission here.
1.Reji Padinjarekkara.(also called PAJOSEPH,George,FLORIDAN etc..etc..& )
2.Thomas P T (clavar thoma )
3.Benedict & Figi ( donot know malayalam FULLY but expert in TAMIL)
4.Saju & Janeese (pleasure in kallu kudy & changing church documents etc.. )
5.Sunney Nelluvelil ..( born for position, that is his oxygen )
When they realized that they cannot misguide and fullfill their ulterior intention / personal agenda to hijack the church and to make it as their private limited co,they started spitting poison agaist Fr.Saji and this community.Still the venomous talks and activities are going on just to tarnish a noble priest.
Fr.Varghese be careful...All these creatures are with you while you arrived in Airport.Please distinguish evil and virtues.
We hope you will also have the virtues of Fr.Saji.Then the whole community will be with you
One of his friend from midcity ward calls me very often too and try to talk good things about Bishop.He justfy this Thommmmachan things a lot.
When he comes to church he act like a gentle man.But he do back door game through phone calls.
we are ready to give details later.
Leaving seminary is much better than staying there against your conscience.
Pay attention to the injustices people do, instead of the personal choices they make for their own life.
It is unfair to put down people for leaving seminary or convent.
Not only Pottan Thoma,Vattan Reji but also MANDABHUTHI JOSHY, MIKE/MEMORANDUM BABU,NONSENSE TOMY, KALLAN ACCOUNTANT,KALLAN BUSINESSMAN GEORGE,THORAPPAN SUNNY all were there to recieve achan...All position seekers.Joshy is a real mandabhuthi. No back born. Big body and small brain. always under the influence of alchahol.Babu is mike mania and he is crazy about memorandum. It's his weakness.Mike babu is expert in sending memorandum against Bishop. Tomy is nuisence to the community and good malayalam writer in blogs.Accountant is a pacca kallan to manipulate the accounts.Business man is a cunning man who stands at both sides and his only intention is business.He is giving life to others and ccd kids and families.Pacca politician. Pinne nammude thorappan sunnyum cherannal pinne group sajeevam
arayirunnu oru thaidchu karatha lady shouting at church? avalu saji achanu kalayanm vare alochichathyi kettu. avalu achene keetikkan othiri try cheythenna kelkkunne. any clue?
Not only Pottan Thoma,Vattan Reji but also MANDABHUTHI JOSHY, MIKE/MEMORANDUM BABU,NONSENSE TOMY, KALLAN ACCOUNTANT,KALLAN BUSINESSMAN GEORGE,THORAPPAN SUNNY all were there to recieve achan...All position seekers.
Pottan Thoma:Seminari reject and manipulator
Vattan Reji:Seminary Jumper, George,floridian etc
Joshy:is a real mandabhuthi. No back born. Big body and small brain. always under the influence of alchahol.He always keeps a bottle with him all the times
Babu: is mike mania and he is crazy about memorandum. memorandum and Mike is his weakness.He is an expert in sending memorandum against Bishop.Good for his stands against Bishop and all his actions
Tomy : is a nuisence to the community and good malayalam writer in blogs.He enjoys writing PAINKILY stories in blog. He is another expert in oomakathu. He writes a lot in blogs.
Accountant Appachen: is a pacca kallan to manipulate the accounts.
Business man George: is a cunning man who stands at both sides and his only intention is business.He is giving life to others and ccd kids and families.Pacca politician.
Pinne nammude thorappan sunnyum cherannal pinne group sajeevam
Hello fair person,
Come out of the hole and let us deal it face to face.I am ready.
Man to Man.
Ready?
See the picture in emalayalee.
Total number is less than 10 out of which two are neutral.
If you want proof of our Claver supporters see the picture and find who are they.
Coppel got 235 members out of which less than 12 is supporting Bishop and his claver cross.
Eda VATTAN THOMA Eda POTTAN REJI vela kayil irikkette. Nallavarude Kuttathil Ningalude perum kuthatheda. Nee Okke PARAYANTTE Kudumbathil Jenichavanalle athalle nee Okke thamarayum konadu nadakkunnathu
MARTIN VELANGOLI is also with this group. He is also a supporter of bishop and belongs to Garland Chuirch
If Martin Velengoli belongs to Garland church who gave him authorisation to publish this news. Is he the PRO of St.Alphonsa Church and got approval.
Youth coordinator enjoy writing under different name. He enjoys gossips against others. He won't leave youth alone. Heard a hot comment by him on Kollur's daughter. who elected such crooked fellow. Mone dinesha niruthikkoda ninte kalikal. Your actions prove that you are a real fraud
MAN "O" MAN...........
GUD CONE..............
HE GOT BALLS.........
നിങ്ങളുടെ കയ്യില് എഴുതാന് പെനയുണ്ട് എന്ന് കരുതി എന്തും എഴുതാം എന്ന് നിങ്ങള് ഒരു കാലത്ത് കരുതിയിരുന്നു.ഒന്നര വര്ഷം മുന്പ് ഒരു പാവപെട്ട പെണ്ണിനെ പറ്റി നിങ്ങള് പരടുഷണം എഴുതിയതോര്മയുണ്ടോ?
ഇനി അതുപോലത്തെ എന്തെങ്ങിലും പണിയുമായി നിങ്ങള് വന്നാല് ചെളി വാരി എറിയാന് ഞങ്ങള് ഒരു മടിയും കാനിക്യില്ല.അന്ന് ഞങ്ങള് കുരിച്ചതാണ്.
ഈ വക തറ പെരിപാടികള് ആരുടേയും കുത്തകയല്ല.വെറുതേ വീട്ടില് ഇരിക്യന നിങ്ങളുടെ വേണ്ടപെട്ടവരേ പബ്ലിക് പ്രോപെര്ടി ആക്കി മാറ്റല്ലേ മക്കളേ.......ഈ പള്ളിയില് വരുന്ന എല്ലാ പെണ്ണുങ്ങളും ഞങ്ങളുടെ അമ്മയും പെങ്ങന്മാരുമാണ്.
ആരേയും തൊട്ടു കളിക്യണ്ട.ഇത് Garland അല്ല.ഇവിടെ കളിച്ചാല് തിരിച്ചു കളി വരും.ഞങ്ങള് ഓടി ഒളിക്യില്ല.അതിനി ഏതു കൊമ്പത്തെ രാജാവായാലും.
Leaving seminary is much better than staying there against your conscience.
Pay attention to the injustices people do, instead of the personal choices they make for their own life,,,, BUT WHY KEEP SCREWING EVERONE IN OUR CHURCH?
It is unfair to put down people for leaving seminary or convent.
Any body has any new updates of Saji Achen?
Reji,why you guys forget about the photographer Thalanthan kanji Martin
If this MArtin guy is with Garland Gang, What is he doing in Coppell. Get Lost Man ! Go to your Garland Godfather. Be Man Enough
Theettam Theeni MARTIN VELANGOLI. He is in this group too. He is VATTANS baby doll and Bishops ASS sucker.
എന്താണെന്നറിയില്ല, പക്ഷം ചേരാതെ എഴുതുന്ന ചില അഭിപ്രായങ്ങളൊന്നും പ്രസിദ്ധീകരിച്ചു കാണുന്നില്ല.
മയാമി ന്യൂസ് എന്ന പേരില് കണ്ട കമന്റ് നമ്പര് 74 ഒള്ളതാണോ? എങ്കില് വളരെ മോശം
Don't worry about our finance issues.As Vinodachan said last sunday, a new account is open in thomas name and all our money is transfered to new account.so let us use first from our balance money for the day to day expenses.After that we will start giving our contribtution to just run our church smoothly.If there is no balance no one can freeze our money and make more issues.
who is not kallukudiyan in our church?.we so you all during our last 2 x's carrole.Thoma,Reji,shame
on you.
Why Tamil lady bringing shame to her family? She needs to focus on her "corporate world" job since she think she good at it. Also resolve her family problems before causing issues at church.
ബ്ലോഗ് ഓണര്ക്ക് ഒരു തുറന്ന കത്ത്.
ഇയ്യിടെ ആയി പല ബ്ലോഗര്മാര്, തമ്മിലുള്ള കുടിപ്പക തീര്ക്കാനുള്ള വേദി ആയി ഈ മനോഹര പംക്തിയെ മാറ്റുന്നതായി കാണുന്നു. അതൊരു നല്ല പ്രവണതയായി കാണാന് പറ്റില്ല.
എല്ലാവരും ഒരു പ്രത്യേക കാരണത്തെ പറ്റി ചര്ച്ച നടത്തുകയും വിമര്ശിക്കുകയും ഒക്കെ ചെയ്യുന്ന ഈ വേദിയില് വ്യക്തി വിരോധം കടന്ന് കയറാന് അനുവദിക്കരുത്. വ്യക്തികളെ പേരെടുത്ത് പറഞ്ഞു അശ്ലീല പദങ്ങളുടെ അകമ്പടിയോടെ സ്വഭാവ ഹത്യ ചെയ്യുമ്പോള് ഈ ചര്ച്ചാ വേദിയുടെ അന്തസ്സാണ് ഇടിയുന്നത്.
അതുപോലെ തന്നെ കുറച്ചു കൂടി സരസ്സമായ ചില പ്രതിപാദനങ്ങള് ഇടക്കിടക്ക് ചേര്ക്കുന്നത് കൂടുതല് വായനക്കാരെ ആകര്ഷിക്കനും മറ്റും നല്ലതാണ്. ഉദാഹരണം: ചിക്കാഗോയിലെ ഈസ്റ്റര് ആഘോഷങ്ങളെപ്പറ്റി ഈ പംക്തിയില് വന്ന ഹാസ്യ നിരൂപണം അടിപൊളിയായിരുന്നു. ഞാനും കൂട്ടുകാരും ഇടയ്ക്കൊക്കെ അതൊന്നു മറിച്ച് നോക്കി വായിച്ചു രസിക്കാറുണ്ട്. അതെഴുതിയ ആളുടെ ഹാസ്യ ഭാവനയെ എത്ര അഭിനന്ദിച്ചാലും മതിയാവില്ല. ഏതായാലും സീറോ മലബാര് വോയിസിന് നാള്ക്കുനാള് വായനക്കാരും ആരാധകരും വര്ദ്ധിച്ചു വരുന്നു എന്നതിന് സംശയമില്ല.
ഇതിന്റെ നടത്തിപ്പുകാര്ക്ക് പ്രത്യേക അഭിനന്ദനങ്ങള്.
Who is this photographer?The one who forgot to bring camera on the day of church blessing?
wow he is great......
Dont tell anythng about him.
He is a superman.
AAA sss aaa nnn aaa ttt hhh iii lll aaa lll uuu mmm uuu lll aaa ccc hhh aaa lll aaa ttt hhh uuu mmm ttt hhh aaa nnn aaa lll.
eeenaam peechikyu marapatti kuuttuuu
dont put him out.we need to enjoy his photography.manipulated photo graphy as per thomma's instruction.
he get a phone call every day from Thomma and he will tell him what to do then he do it.he will tell whose photo need to be taken and whose need not to be taken.
Ivanakko andindo?Atho kadamaano?
ഇന്നലെ ചിക്കാഗോ അരമന ഭാഗത്ത് നിന്നു കേട്ട ഒരു മൂളിപ്പാട്ട് .
നല്ല വെളിച്ചം ഇല്ലാതിരുന്നതിനാല് ആളെ തിരിച്ചറിയാന് പറ്റിയില്ല
വൈദീക വേഷം ധരിച്ച ഒരാള് അരമനക്ക് സമീപത്തു
ഉലാത്തുന്നുണ്ടായിരുന്നു എന്ന് 'സരസന്' പറയുന്നു .
"പാണ്ടന് നായുടെ പല്ലിനു ശൗര്യം പണ്ടേപ്പോലെ ഫലിക്കുന്നില്ല,
പണ്ടിവനോരുകടിയാലൊരുപുലിയെ കണ്ടിച്ച്തു ഞാന് കണ്ടറിയുന്നേന്"
An Outsider
തിരുത്ത്
തലവാചകം 'മെത്രാന്റെ കുത്തും കൊപ്പെലിന്റെ മറുകത്തും 'എന്ന് തിരുത്തി വായിച്ചാലോ ?
An Outsider
KODUTHAL COPPELLILUM KITTUM ENNU VAAYICHALO?
Please read UNITED-CHURCHES.ORG and come out of the world of "WELL" where the whole world is for frogs. God is the Father of everyone. The elder brother of Prodigal son thinks the Father is his only. What will happen if the prodigal son went to the elder son instead of going to the Father. The prodigal son would have been EXPLOITED and driven away. It should not happen to me or anyone else. Because many church leaders are like those in Mathew 23:23.
John
Please read Please read UNITED-CHURCHES.ORG and come of the world of "well" where the whole world is for frogs. God is the Father of everyone. The elder brother of Prodigal son thinks the Father is his only. What will happen if the prodigal son went to the elder son instead of going to the Father. The prodigal son would have been EXPLOITED and driven away. It should not happen to me or anyone else. Because many church leaders are like those in Mathew 23:23.
John
UNITED-CHURCHES.ORG
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